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re: Truth or Myth: The LSU offensive line has turned itself around

Posted on 10/28/22 at 9:14 am to
Posted by PureBlood
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Posted on 10/28/22 at 9:14 am to
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Truth or Myth: The LSU offensive line has turned itself around



A major part of this is Jayden being more decisive.

Look at the 2019 O-line. Joe Burrow made them look much stronger than they were as a whole.

A decisive QB does wonders.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 10/28/22 at 9:19 am to
Improved - yes.

A “strength” - Maybe.

They struggled at Auburn and Alabama and A&M are equal to (if not better than) Auburn on the D line.

In short, we will find out in a week or so.
Posted by Gulf Coast Tiger
Ms Gulf Coast
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Posted on 10/28/22 at 9:21 am to
They are definitely improving as a unit. The freshmen tackles have been through the ringer and they are better for it. They have a huge test this next game
Posted by TheFlyingTiger
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 10/28/22 at 9:32 am to
Proves the x's and O's VS jimmies and Joes argument doesn't it?

Posted by TheFlyingTiger
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Posted on 10/28/22 at 9:34 am to
quote:

major part of this is Jayden being more decisive.

Look at the 2019 O-line. Joe Burrow made them look much stronger than they were as a whole.

A decisive QB does wonder


This is pretty much everything. When there's not 8 men in the box, josh Williams rips off big runs. When they keep an extra man In for Daniels legs, he has openings to throw.

Holding the ball and panic running was what was killing this offense. When he stopped doing that and let it go, things got easier.
Posted by USAFTiger42
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 10/28/22 at 9:36 am to
This OL is why Daniels is playing better. They were already doing alright in pass protection but run blocking was abysmal. Now they are run blocking well enough to balance out the defense. We are no longer a one trick pony BECAUSE of the OL.
Posted by MintBerry Crunch
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 10/28/22 at 10:20 am to
I think they found a group that works well together... the real test is on 11/5 though.

I still get nervous about Myles Frazier, but I always forget he's young. He has played like a G recently though.
Posted by SMLR
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Posted on 10/28/22 at 10:30 am to
Can I add two words? Brad Davis
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
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Posted on 10/28/22 at 10:42 am to
Both, it was never as bad as everyone thought
Posted by lostinbr
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Posted on 10/28/22 at 10:45 am to
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I think the question at this point is do you even put Dellinger back in with how well the OL has played without him. Bradford has done well. Also Dellinger wasnt even having a particularly great season himself.

You mean Frazier? Bradford was already starting at RG.

Dellinger was good once they moved him to guard. He’s just had a bad run of injuries between his broken hand and knee sprain.

I am curious to see what they do with him, though. If he still has the cast on his hand and isn’t 100% recovered from the knee sprain, I could see them rolling with Frazier.
Posted by GetmorewithLes
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Posted on 10/28/22 at 10:48 am to
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Dellinger is expected to return from his knee injury and play against Alabama, giving LSU more depth in a rotation that includes Miles Frazier and Anthony Bradford.


Right now I would leave the starting line alone but would ease Dellinger back into rotation. Also, did he get his cast off his hand?
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 10/28/22 at 11:06 am to
quote:

This OL is why Daniels is playing better. They were already doing alright in pass protection but run blocking was abysmal. Now they are run blocking well enough to balance out the defense. We are no longer a one trick pony BECAUSE of the OL.

It’s both, and these arguments about “who gets credit” are silly.

Better OL, RB, and WR play makes the quarterback’s job easier. Better QB play makes the OL, RB, and WR jobs easier. It’s all interconnected.

As an example: sometimes in a game (not specific to LSU) you’ll have a couple of missed assignments that lead to sacks. Maybe an RB misses a blitz pickup on one play and the interior OL don’t properly pick up a stunt on another. Now the QB is nervous because he knows the other team is getting pressure. Then you fast forward a drive or two and the QB is bailing from a clean pocket because his internal clock is off. Is that on the QB or the OL? It’s both! If the QB trusted his OL he wouldn’t be bailing from the pocket.. but if the OL hadn’t missed those assignments earlier, the QB would trust them. It’s a team game.

At LSU, we have a new coaching staff with a new offensive scheme. We are starting to see Daniels and the rest of the skill players really settle into that scheme, which also opens up the playbook.

Meanwhile we had a game of musical chairs on the OL early in the season, with two true freshman tackles. That unit is getting better (and more comfortable) every week, just like the skill players.

There’s no one specific thing that’s driving our offense to be more successful. There are a whole lot of little things. When all of those little things come together, you see a performance like we’ve had the past two weeks.
Posted by BPTiger
Atlanta
Member since Oct 2011
5333 posts
Posted on 10/28/22 at 11:17 am to
Lotta talk about the QB in this thread. I’ll post the truth/myth on Daniels when I have a minute to put it together.
Posted by TheFlyingTiger
Member since Oct 2009
3999 posts
Posted on 10/28/22 at 11:34 am to
quote:

Lotta talk about the QB in this thread. I’ll post the truth/myth on Daniels when I have a minute to put it together.


Cliffs are fine, bro
Posted by TDTiger225
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 10/28/22 at 11:39 am to
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Can I add two words? Brad Davis
I was planning on posting this as well.

It's remarkable that he was the only person that BK retained from the previous staff. Obviously, it was a very high bar that was set and only Davis made the cut. So far, Kelly has proven himself right on most of his decisions. Give BK credit for his decision, but Davis probably deserves most of the credit for the improvement.
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
19610 posts
Posted on 10/28/22 at 11:45 am to

quote:

LSU’s were a weakness under Ed Orgeron.

The 2019 o-line won the Joe Moore award.

quote:

it was even better against Ole Miss, with LSU rushing for 252 yards while Daniels could do whatever he wanted

That had a lot more to do with Ole Miss than LSU.
Posted by LSUStar
Medellin
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Posted on 10/28/22 at 12:18 pm to
I agree. Daniels frequently has plenty of time to survey the field.
Posted by BPTiger
Atlanta
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Posted on 10/28/22 at 12:44 pm to
Posted by Homer Pelican
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Posted on 10/28/22 at 12:52 pm to
True
Posted by KingofthePoint
Member since Feb 2009
10156 posts
Posted on 10/28/22 at 1:01 pm to
quote:

Truth or Myth: The LSU offensive line has turned itself around

It’s almost as if Brad Davis is a good coach and those of us who actually paid attention last season knew this would happen.
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