re: Have we forgotten Nuss vs Southern?

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Yes indeed. CBK with decades of coaching experience in the highest levels of college football can't see it, but a bunch of half drunk fans, most of whom have never donned a set of pads, can?

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Agreed.

To think Nuss should have started this year you have to believe;

1) CBK is too stupid to see that Nuss should be starting

2) CBK is too inexperienced or blind to see that Nuss should be starting or

3) CBK has some grudge against Nuss and is punishing him by making him ride the bench even though he is clearly the better option for the team.

Or, and this is just a thought, CBK sees all the quarterbacks every day in practice and one of them consistently makes better, smarter plays than the other one and that is the player that starts. That may change in The future, but right now they are what they are.

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Have we forgotten Daniels vs Arkansas and A&M?

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See how easy that is?

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You got all that from a half a game?

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daniels QBR improved over the season then fell drastically during the arkansas/A&M/UGA games. the film finally caught up to him and the blue print was laid out how to stop him. he doesn't read zone defense well at all and has been sacked 43 times this year. some of those weren't his fault but a lot were.

88.1 avg QBR for Florida, ole miss alabama
53.6 avg QBR for arkansas, a&m, UGA

there has been a giant regression since the alabama game.



not an "NFL scout" by any means. just looking at the numbers.

for transparency here are nussmeiers:



as you can see, he hasn't really had much playing time since new mexico which he improved over his hellacious outing in the southern game. looking back it definitely seemed he was trying to do too much and pressed hard. the coaches deemed him not ready after that southern game and went with daniels.

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If you guys think CBK isn't putting the QB he thinks has the best chance for victory on the field, you're crazy.

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Yeah this is what I don’t get. People already claiming that BK is just stubborn and won’t run any other kind of offense based off his one year here. What he did at ND is irrelevant. He’s already fully admitted he knew he couldn’t get the type of players at ND that he can get here. That’s why he chose to take this job. ND has never been known to have nearly the elite receivers we’ve had.

If I’m 4 years, he’s still running an offense that’s holding us back like Les Miles, yeah then it’s time to talk about him being a problem. Not in year 1 where he’s already made us far better than we’ve been the past 2 years AND seems to be building a very strong culture here. Something we haven’t seen in awhile.

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Wasn’t referring to JD. Was referring to Nuss.

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I posted about nuss as well. he hasn't really been given much of a chance since the first two times he has actual playing time.

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You simply do not have enough data to show definitively that he is the answer.

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you're right. but we do have enough data on daniels to show he's probably not the answer. he is who he is. I don't expect him to drastically improve in his 5th and final year. could he? maybe. he just seems hesitant to throw and make a decisive choice where to go with the ball.

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See how easy that is?

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Yes. And not a single person here has said that JD is a superstar QB. He’s not and never will be. He’s serviceable with damn good running ability and protects the ball (maybe a little too much).

My argument for him is and has always been that maybe BK knows more about the QB situation than any of us do (it’s a safe bet). Could he be wrong? Sure. But for now I’m willing to give him and the rest of this coaching staff the benefit of doubt. I’m also rational and not ready to jump to the conclusion that Nuss is a QB god after a half a game. I’m also not saying there’s no way that Nuss could be good. He may very well turn out to be. He’s dam sure got an arm on him. You can’t deny his arm strength like you can’t deny JDs legs. There are two opposing trains of thought here. Yes, Nuss’s ability to throw the deep ball does force defenses to watch fir that. But on the opposite side of that, JDs legs makes defenses have to adjust for that.

Ideally if we could merge the two we would have one of the most deadly QBs in history. Unfortunately that’s not possible.

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Yes. And not a single person here has said that JD is a superstar QB. He’s not and never will be. He’s serviceable with damn good running ability and protects the ball (maybe a little too much).

My argument for him is and has always been that maybe BK knows more about the QB situation than any of us do (it’s a safe bet). Could he be wrong? Sure. But for now I’m willing to give him and the rest of this coaching staff the benefit of doubt. I’m also rational and not ready to jump to the conclusion that Nuss is a QB god after a half a game. I’m also not saying there’s no way that Nuss could be good. He may very well turn out to be. He’s dam sure got an arm on him. You can’t deny his arm strength like you can’t deny JDs legs. There are two opposing trains of thought here. Yes, Nuss’s ability to throw the deep ball does force defenses to watch fir that. But on the opposite side of that, JDs legs makes defenses have to adjust for that.

Ideally if we could merge the two we would have one of the most deadly QBs in history. Unfortunately that’s not possible.

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It's just a dumb thread. Daniels has years of starting experience, Nuss not so much. Daniels is not going to have some major jump in production. he is what he is.

Yea, Daniels absolutely was the best choice for winning now. But you see the improvement of Nuss from a limited amount of reps, and you can see the potential if he got more practice reps with the 1s and more meaningful game reps. Daniels is not the guy next year IMO.

Have you forgotten he has not once been given all the 1st team practice snaps leading into a game? That he is fairly mobile himself? That he can make any throw on the field? That is is apparent the team became enthusiastic when he entered the game? The writing is on the wall buddy the ceiling is higher with him under center. JD is an adequate QB but one with severe limitations when it comes to reading the field. You cannot let Nuss walk out the door. May I also mentioned he committed to LSU out of high school. He wants to be the staring QB for our program!

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Have you forgotten he has not once been given all the 1st team practice snaps leading into a game?

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Yes but he was given those opportunities in practices. And for whatever reason (we don’t know because none of us watched them practice) this coaching staff thought JD was the better option. Maybe that was the wrong decision, maybe it was the right decision. There’s honestly no way to know that because we can’t rewind time and play the season over with Nuss as QB. It’s possible he could have come in and we went undefeated and won the national championship. It’s also possible he could have been terrible and we could have A&Ms record.