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re: Not really political other than any self defense laws…Apple River stabbings from 2022
Posted on 4/9/24 at 12:47 pm to roadGator
Posted on 4/9/24 at 12:47 pm to roadGator
He was using a snorkel looking for a dropped cell phone from his group. The drunk teenagers started yelling at him from across the river so he thought they were gesturing that they had found his phone.
As he approached the drunk teenagers they continued yelling and laughing.He accidentally dropped his snorkel and mask in the water. The drunk teenagers surrounded him, yelled at him, laughed, and pushed him down in the water several times.
A second group stopped and two women joined in with the taunting. The women actually put their hands on him and the man was panicked out of his mind with 13 crazy, drunk teenagers all around him. (English was his fifth language.) As you watch the video, notice that he keeps looking down at the water for his phone and snorkel. He finally stabbed the people who had touched him and he walked away,
As he approached the drunk teenagers they continued yelling and laughing.He accidentally dropped his snorkel and mask in the water. The drunk teenagers surrounded him, yelled at him, laughed, and pushed him down in the water several times.
A second group stopped and two women joined in with the taunting. The women actually put their hands on him and the man was panicked out of his mind with 13 crazy, drunk teenagers all around him. (English was his fifth language.) As you watch the video, notice that he keeps looking down at the water for his phone and snorkel. He finally stabbed the people who had touched him and he walked away,
Posted on 4/9/24 at 1:46 pm to Jtomka
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As he approached the drunk teenagers they continued yelling and laughing.He accidentally dropped his snorkel and mask in the water. The drunk teenagers surrounded him, yelled at him, laughed, and pushed him down in the water several times.
For one, he never said anything, he ran over to the group of teens and grabbed one of the teenagers while that person was sitting in a tube. Then they all got up and started laughing and taunting him because they did not know what he was doing.
He punched one of the girls there which was why they pushed him down. Then he pulled a knife and sliced open the first guy's stomach when that guy tried to push him away. You could maybe argue self-defense there but though the guy pushed him, never actually hit him.
At this point, he was stabbing anybody around him. He stabbed a girl in the side. No self-defense there.
Another teen walks up to try and get everybody to calm down and separate. This teen was not aggressive or attacking in any way and he turns and starts stabbing that kid. No way you can argue self-defense there.
He walks away and the teen that was killed chases after him and he stabs that kid. Could argue self-defense there but not sure you could justify lethal force considering the kid was not armed.
How many people on here would stand around and do nothing if some random guy punched a girl you were friends with in the face? I am going to assume none. Is he justified in stabbing multiple people who defended a girl he attacked?
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