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re: Are the Pirates really going to wait until next year to call Skenes up?
Posted on 4/20/24 at 12:34 pm to Morpheus
Posted on 4/20/24 at 12:34 pm to Morpheus
Teams don’t want their young pitchers to have drastic IP increases from one year to the next. Skenes threw 130 innings last year. Their goal for him this year is probably around 160. If he was an everyday starter in the majors opening day he’d blow by that. They’re trying to avoid a Strasburg or Joba situation where they can’t pitch him at the end of the year in a playoff run.
It’s not rocket science
It’s not rocket science
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Posted on 4/20/24 at 12:38 pm to 1ranter1
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Teams don’t want their young pitchers to have drastic IP increases from one year to the next. Skenes threw 130 innings last year. Their goal for him this year is probably around 160. If he was an everyday starter in the majors opening day he’d blow by that. They’re trying to avoid a Strasburg or Joba situation where they can’t pitch him at the end of the year in a playoff run.
Yep. And if the pirates start stinking it up and already 20 games out in June, he will stay in the minors for the rest of the year.
Posted on 4/20/24 at 12:41 pm to 1ranter1
quote:at 3 innings an outing, he’d need 53 outings to get to 160. “Every day starting pitchers” in MLB throw 170-200 innings a year. Thats not a whole lot more than 160 for a starter.
Teams don’t want their young pitchers to have drastic IP increases from one year to the next. Skenes threw 130 innings last year. Their goal for him this year is probably around 160. If he was an everyday starter in the majors opening day he’d blow by that. They’re trying to avoid a Strasburg or Joba situation where they can’t pitch him at the end of the year in a playoff run.
The pirates are manipulating his service time. Thats the only reason he’s in the minors
This post was edited on 4/20/24 at 12:42 pm
Posted on 4/20/24 at 12:41 pm to 1ranter1
You seem very dialed in and consider yourself to have more knowledge than most here. So should they just shut him down now to manage him for the back half and their playoff run?
The OP wasn’t discussing load management. The question was when he would be called up.
It wasn’t rocket science nor was it written Japanese
The OP wasn’t discussing load management. The question was when he would be called up.
It wasn’t rocket science nor was it written Japanese
This post was edited on 4/20/24 at 12:42 pm
Posted on 4/20/24 at 4:53 pm to 1ranter1
quote:It's not rocket science, but you got it wrong anyway.
Teams don’t want their young pitchers to have drastic IP increases from one year to the next. Skenes threw 130 innings last year. Their goal for him this year is probably around 160. If he was an everyday starter in the majors opening day he’d blow by that. They’re trying to avoid a Strasburg or Joba situation where they can’t pitch him at the end of the year in a playoff run.
It’s not rocket science
It's all about his contract and the Pirates' control.
The Pirates can preserve a year of club control over Skenes by keeping him in the minors for three rotation cycles. If he stays in the minors for that time, he doesn't earn a full year of service time for 2024. This allows the Pirates to maximize the amount of time Skenes is in their organization.
This is not new, and it's not exclusive to pitchers. The Braves did the same thing with Ronald Acuña Jr. in 2018 by sending him to the minors to manipulate his service time.
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