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re: Windhorst says Philly is monitoring the Brandon Ingram situation

Posted on 5/3/24 at 5:07 pm to
Posted by TeddyPadillac
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25955 posts
Posted on 5/3/24 at 5:07 pm to
The cap will continue to rise significantly over the next 2 years, almost 10% jumps into 2026 and 2027 each. BI's contract will not be that terrible. He's still a really good player, and he's still young. We saw a huge jump in his defense and rebounding effort this year. No one was bitching about him before he got hurt with 12 games left b/c he was playing well and the team was playing like a top 5 team in the league.


I'd prefer if we traded both BI and CJ, but I dont think that's realistic with our idiot GM. If we can't find a good deal for BI, then you have to resign him, and if that happens, then CJ needs to be on the move for a legit PG. I"m sorry but CJ's defense is just too bad. It's not only bad one on one, but he seems just as bad off the ball and understanding schematically what we are trying to do.
You get BI off the ball, Zion as well, and have a real PG that sets them both up and I think we'd be better off.
BI had great points per possession stats coming off screens as well as dribble handoffs this year, both significantly higher than Zion and CJ. He was also more effecient in the post than Zion was in regards to points per possession.
BI was in the 57th percentile in the league in efficiency for ISO possessions, and CJ was even worst in just the 40th percentile (higer the better). ZIon was 75th percentile for ISO.
BI was a much more effecient player of the ball than on the ball, which is proven by his stats coming off screens, dribble handoffs, and post ups all being a good bit higher than his ISO and PNR as the ball handler stats.

2 dribbles or less and BI shoots 60% on 2's and 36% on 3's.
3+ dribbles and he drops to under 50% on 2's, and that's over half of his
total attempts per game this past year.


It might not be a terrible thing to move CJ and get a real PG, if that's possible to find.
Posted by Split2874
Mandeville
Member since Jul 2012
2474 posts
Posted on 5/3/24 at 5:47 pm to
Would you be ok with bringing BI back on a team friendly deal?

I do not know what that number is.

Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
18052 posts
Posted on 5/3/24 at 8:22 pm to
quote:

You get BI off the ball,


The one thing that was conclusively demonstrated this season was that Borrego's plan to run the offense through BI was a terrible idea. We now know, and BI also knows, that this doesn't work.

But if we want BI to shoot catch-and-shoot 3rd and drive to the rim on closeouts ... doesn't Trey do those things as well as BI?
Posted by higgsBoson
Democratic Party
Member since Jan 2012
1424 posts
Posted on 5/3/24 at 8:47 pm to
quote:

I'd prefer if we traded both BI and CJ, but I dont think that's realistic with our idiot GM. If we can't find a good deal for BI, then you have to resign him, and if that happens, then CJ needs to be on the move for a legit PG. I"m sorry but CJ's defense is just too bad. It's not only bad one on one, but he seems just as bad off the ball and understanding schematically what we are trying to do


If we trade CJ we basically have no shooting at all.
Posted by Balsamic_duck
Member since Jun 2017
3214 posts
Posted on 5/4/24 at 8:55 am to
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The cap will continue to rise significantly over the next 2 years, almost 10% jumps into 2026 and 2027 each. BI's contract will not be that terrible. He's still a really good player, and he's still young. We saw a huge jump in his defense and rebounding effort this year. No one was bitching about him before he got hurt with 12 games left b/c he was playing well and the team was playing like a top 5 team in the league. I'd prefer if we traded both BI and CJ, but I dont think that's realistic with our idiot GM. If we can't find a good deal for BI, then you have to resign him, and if that happens, then CJ needs to be on the move for a legit PG. I"m sorry but CJ's defense is just too bad. It's not only bad one on one, but he seems just as bad off the ball and understanding schematically what we are trying to do. You get BI off the ball, Zion as well, and have a real PG that sets them both up and I think we'd be better off. BI had great points per possession stats coming off screens as well as dribble handoffs this year, both significantly higher than Zion and CJ. He was also more effecient in the post than Zion was in regards to points per possession. BI was in the 57th percentile in the league in efficiency for ISO possessions, and CJ was even worst in just the 40th percentile (higer the better). ZIon was 75th percentile for ISO. BI was a much more effecient player of the ball than on the ball, which is proven by his stats coming off screens, dribble handoffs, and post ups all being a good bit higher than his ISO and PNR as the ball handler stats. 2 dribbles or less and BI shoots 60% on 2's and 36% on 3's. 3+ dribbles and he drops to under 50% on 2's, and that's over half of his total attempts per game this past year. It might not be a terrible thing to move CJ and get a real PG, if that's possible to find.


What about the fact that BI refuses to play off ball and just loafs around if he doesn’t have the ball. Did you just watch this last season? Getting a PG isn’t going to make BI give a shite. He doesn’t want to do those things
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