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re: Ancient civilizations. Y or N?

Posted on 5/4/24 at 3:55 pm to
Posted by PowerTool
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Posted on 5/4/24 at 3:55 pm to
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But that's the point, that we evolve in stages, and we don't expect that farmers and nomads will casually wake up one day and decide to erect massive stone structures. Yet that's what we're TOLD to believe by Archaeology™.


That is not what we're told. Do more reading about sites like Gobekli Tepe. Thousands of years of development, with the time estimates having a margin of error around a thousand years.

The dreaded "mainstream" archaeologists, who have significantly pushed back the estimates of urban development in just the last decade.

I think it's all pretty cool and interesting; our ideas about the history of civilization and agriculture that we were taught in school as kids have changed drastically, just in the last ten years.

But...those discoveries have been made my "mainstream" archaeologists, Con-artists like Graham Hancock have made a nice little cottage industry of pointing to new discoveries by archaeologists, and then pointing the finger and acting like they're hiding their own discoveries or something.

The pyramids are a great example of people inventing mystery where knowledge exists. Hieroglyphics and inscriptions have in fact been found, and studied and written about extensively. Herodotus visited the pyramids in the 5th Century B.C. and wrote that he was taught by local priests and scholars who showed him inscriptions about the building of the pyramids as tombs to the great pharaohs.

But all it takes is a few persistent youtubers and con-artists to deny the existence of actual historical records to convince other people that those records don't exist.

ETA: I forgot to bash the Ancient Alien "theorists" too. I would call them idiots, but they're smart enough to make a career out of outright lies.
This post was edited on 5/4/24 at 3:57 pm
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 5/4/24 at 4:07 pm to
What was that massive underground system they found in that same part of the world? Miles of tunnels that lead to dozens of rooms, advanced ventilation and irrigation, etc. I want to say parts of it were dated before even Gobekli Tepi.
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 5/4/24 at 8:55 pm to
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Con-artists like Graham Hancock have made a nice little cottage industry of pointing to new discoveries by archaeologists, and then pointing the finger and acting like they're hiding their own discoveries or something.


You picked a con artist who has spent the last 25 years being proven more right than wrong.

The guy's a loon. But... Much like ol' "turn the feiggin frogs gay" he now has a few too many accurate things to dismiss him as easily as you did.
Posted by Naked Bootleg
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 5/5/24 at 6:24 am to
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Herodotus visited the pyramids in the 5th Century B.C. and wrote that he was taught by local priests and scholars who showed him inscriptions about the building of the pyramids as tombs to the great pharaohs.


You do realize Herodotus is regarded as a better storyteller than a historian, right? Understanding this, inscriptions aren't necessarily hieroglyphs in the sense of a traditional form of writing. And local priests & scholars aren't going to tell a foreign traveler "yep, all the gold and treasure you can imagine is over there in that valley" where the great pharaohs were actually buried.

Just playing devil's advocate..
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