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re: Ancient civilizations. Y or N?

Posted on 5/5/24 at 7:35 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/5/24 at 7:35 am to
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The story between Cain & Abel till the flood mentions the formation of metal working, music and other cultural achievements. The Noah story shows that man at least believed it was possible back then to build a massive Navy vessel that man would not be capable of building for another 5,000 years.

Well Noah never built an actual ship, for starters. If any story in the Bible is an allegory, Noah is that.

And you do realize Genesis was written by people who had metal working, music, etc., right? Their conceptualization of society is seen in Genesis.

Humans used copper possibly up to 8000 BC. Then Bronze about 3500 BC. Areas of humanity were past hunger-gather stage as early as 12000 BC (and we may find more evidence of cities older than this).

Regardless, that's not "advanced".
Posted by Liberator
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Posted on 5/5/24 at 9:45 am to
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Well Noah never built an actual ship, for starters. If any story in the Bible is an allegory, Noah is that.


For starters, from what source(s) of "evidence" do you dismiss the historical account of either Noah or his ship-ark building as "allegorical" ? (Discerning "allegorical" from "factual" is an easy enough task -- that is, if one understands context.)


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... you do realize Genesis was written by people who had metal working, music, etc., right?


For the record, it was Moses who had written or transcribed the account of Genesis directly from God. (NOT "people".)

"Metal workings" early on in Man's history -- as well as Noah's ship-building precision craftsmanship and material design -- both provide clear and overwhelming evidence of early pre-Flood advanced civilization.


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Areas of humanity were past hunger-gather stage as early as 12000 BC (and we may find more evidence of cities older than this). Regardless, that's not "advanced".


Your theory of a "past hunger-gather stage" of a supposed humanity from a supposed 12000 BC timeline -- from who and on what basis is it to be accepted as factual? (IS it possible your Timeline is way off?)

Moreover, with respect to your claim that humanity's deep past (you say 12,000 BC) were not "advanced", how are would you explain virtually the same monolithic block structures and pyramids ruins AND canal / city infrastructures are found / strewn all across this realm from Peru to Easter Island to Turkey to India?

This realm's massive ancient civilization centers were obviously not built by so-called "hunter gathers". That leaves plausible speculation as to these builders' ID.
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