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re: SB237 - Republicans sure hate some freedom

Posted on 5/15/24 at 8:42 am to
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50453 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 8:42 am to
Also the OP fails to point out two things…

Trump is NOT a conservative.

Trumps 2016 Farm Bill is what made all these items legal in places like LA in the first place. Downvote away, but both points I made above are true.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
21972 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 8:48 am to
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One of the lasts straws for me was pulling up to a $350 per night hotel with my family and some hoodrat was standing in front of the no smoking sign at the front entrance blazing a joint.


Yeah, there's a huge difference between edibles and smoke. Seems like smoking in public spaces could be regulated regardless of what's being smoked.
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
30980 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 9:08 am to
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Like all of the THC edibles and seltzers that the state is now trying to ban?


You can smoke those? Get the smokers to use them and you might get some of us people that arent users to swing back your way. I was on the legalize train even though Im not a user, but the smell everywhere is yucky.
Posted by TigerVespamon
Member since Dec 2010
6148 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 9:14 am to
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Pressly argued the bill will help keep children from consuming the hemp products containing THC. Consumable hemp products are currently legal in Louisiana for adults.
Likewise, outlawing Tide pods would do the same.
Posted by RougeDawg
Member since Jul 2016
5928 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 9:54 am to
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Again, very non-conservative perspective.

Conservatives do not want government to "fix problems." They want government to ensure freedom and for individuals to fix their own problems.


I would rather they only meet once every five years, but if they are there.... do something productive.
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
79392 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 9:56 am to
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People are annoying as frick with or without weed.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52945 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 10:11 am to
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Go to a country club and see how many of the most successful people on the planet smoke pot or eat gummies.




You potheads never cease to entertain me.

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As previously stated, you want big government with high regulations or not?!?



Pretend, for 1 second, you actually pay attention to politics outside of weed debates.

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If I want to print meat and sell it, who am I hurting?!?!?


The consumer.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52945 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 10:13 am to
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One of the lasts straws for me was pulling up to a $350 per night hotel with my family and some hoodrat was standing in front of the no smoking sign at the front entrance blazing a joint.



Or trying to avoid culture toking it up in the parking lot of rouse's while i'm with my kids.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73050 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 10:15 am to
Those aren't good reasons to make something illegal.
Posted by bird35
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
12290 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 10:16 am to
Bill is funded by the alcohol industry.

Posted by GeauxLSUGeaux
1 room down from Erin Andrews
Member since May 2004
23399 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 10:17 am to
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This country has far greater concerns in 2024.


I think this is the rub. A lot more important things to take care of and our politicians are worried about pot. How about they fix the problems their constituents actually care about? Like fentanyl, illegal immigrants mooching our tax dollars through welfare benefits, and infrastructure.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52945 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 10:22 am to
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Those aren't good reasons to make something illegal.


It's a pretty good reason, to me. Or driving down the road stuck behind a couple stoners with smoke billowing out of their car.

Regarding this particular bill, i don't care either way. But i do support a ban on smoking pot in public, if that were ever to arise. Sure it's not "small government of me" but it's more of a public decency thing. Let's just not all be trash?
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52945 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 10:25 am to
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How about they fix the problems their constituents actually care about? Like fentanyl, illegal immigrants mooching our tax dollars through welfare benefits, and infrastructure.


An argument can be made they are linked, though probably not a strong one.

I get the "it's just a plant" and "let adults choose what to do with their body". But on the flipside of that, look at these wonderful inner cities, and places like California. No drug is illegal. And now you have zombie hordes shitting in the streets. It all starts somewhere. And before the next person says, "but that's not small government", well legalizing every drug may be "small government" but look how well the results are working when these big government democrats enact these "small government" policies like legalizing drug use.
This post was edited on 5/15/24 at 10:26 am
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73050 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 10:27 am to
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It's a pretty good reason, to me.


"I don't like it" will never be a good reason to criminalize something.

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Or driving down the road stuck behind a couple stoners with smoke billowing out of their car.


Driving impaired would still be illegal.

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Let's just not all be trash?


You have your work cut out for you if you plan to legislate people out of being trashy.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52945 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 10:30 am to
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You have your work cut out for you if you plan to legislate people out of being trashy.


The older i get, the more i'm convinced i'm right and everyone else is wrong.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26772 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 10:31 am to
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Thought he was the governor. I don’t see him listed on this committee.


You're right. I'm sure he has nothing to do with it and won't sign it when it reaches his desk.
Posted by BilbeauTBaggins
probably stuck in traffic
Member since May 2021
4699 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 10:38 am to
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I’m assuming you feel the same way about cigarettes. Let’s make them illegal next. Then alcohol.

If we're going to ban products that actually don't kill people, might as well ban the ones that do kill people, right?

Go look at my thread on tOT regarding this. The defense for this bill is utterly insane. You want to keep children from getting the stuff? Don't fricking sell it to them. Be a better parent. No one is up in arms at the fact that EVERY seltzer can on the shelf right now is gears towards youngER people to buy and loaded with crap in them.

GOP is all about *small government* but there is nothing small about what they've done as of recent. Gatekeeping porn, banning THC products, attempting to limit sunshine laws, give me a goddamn break.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
21972 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 10:42 am to
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And before the next person says, "but that's not small government", well legalizing every drug may be "small government" but look how well the results are working when these big government democrats enact these "small government" policies like legalizing drug use.


Therein lies the rub. We have people wanting libertarian freedoms (which I completely understand) while we still have socialized consequences.
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
6687 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 10:49 am to
I'm still amazed at how many "conservatives" hate personal freedom. The majority of companies that provide hemp products are small businesses, so now Republicans are for pushing small businesses out of the market.

The only people against this are against it because they personally do not like it. Forcing others to conform to your beliefs is what authoritarians do. The sad part is that there are so few people in this country that actually support freedom. Republicans on this board constantly talk about how the left says "I don't support that so you can't do it" while claiming the right "doesn't support that but supports your right to choose." In reality, both sides just want to be tyrants.

Banning CBD and hemp products is retarded. These products are better than the pain meds, sleeping pills, etc pushed by big pharma. So now in their attempt to "stick it to potheads", "conservatives" are giving more power to big pharma. Republicans are great at shooting themselves in the dick.
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
6687 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 11:00 am to
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Legalization has not proven to be a positive for society anywhere it has been done. 


A lot of people would argue that religion has not proven to be a positive for society. If this is the measuring stick you want to use, you're going to be severely disappointed.

The whole issue is whether you support freedom or not. You clearly don't.

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Btw - being an adult stoner older than 30 isn't as Kool as yo think maaaann. Grow up.


Riiiight, everyone who smokes weed is a stoner just like everyone who drinks is an alcoholic. I see we've reached the point of emotional arguments.
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