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re: I want to learn to weld..

Posted on 5/15/24 at 6:30 pm to
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
45280 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 6:30 pm to
Ok I have read through this entire thread and there are a good many people in here that just like for others to read what they type because most of it is dead wrong.

If you are just wanting to build your own pit or just want to play around with welding find a friend that has a set up you can play around with. Have them teach you. For what you are wanting to do it will be easy for you to learn enough skills to do that. Make no mistake you will be disappointed, it absolutely will not look like a store bought pit.

If you don't have a friend and are dead set on buying your own set up you can get everything you need at Harbor Freight. Don't let anyone talk you into going and buying a Lincoln, Hobart, or Miller machine set up. This is professional level stuff and for what you want, why spend that kind of money. Plus, you might hate it ( this is why you try to find friend with a set up first )

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Any of these will work, even the cheapest ones. You do not need a set up with a shielding gas. You can use a number of different wires in these, fluxcore and hardwire that do not require gas.

This is all the welding shield you will ever need. I see professionals use this. It is auto darkening which will freak you out your first time using it being as you are a novice. You can even put a cheater lens ( magnifying lens ) in if you wear glasses.
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Also, do not listen to these guys telling you to buy a leather jacket, that is a waste of money.
This is the most you will ever need
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In fact in your case I would just wear a button up denhim shirt and a set of these.
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Remember you are not trying to be a pro, so why invest a ton of money.

Now if you legit wanting to really learn to seriously weld. Again if you have a friend who has the equipment, I would tell you to learn TIG first. That is the only process that can have a very large learning curve but if you learn it the rest are very very easy.

I have taught more welders than I can ever begin to remember. First thing I do is make them watch me for a period of time, then I turn them loose and tell them to do exactly what they watched me do. Then after awhile I will tell them to now take what you learned from me and adjust it for you. Everyone welds a little different and has their own techniques. I leave them with this, I can teach anyone to weld in a short period of time. What I cannot teach you is what to do when things go wrong and they absolutely will and you will only learn that with experience.
This post was edited on 5/15/24 at 6:32 pm
Posted by hwyman108
Member since Nov 2016
1588 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 6:53 pm to
I was an instructor for 8yrs myself. Some ppl could pick it up fairly quick as far as the basics and some never could.

You have to be extremely patience, watch the puddle and be able to see the puddle, carrying the metal to put down a consistent bead. Constantly adjusting your speed and and angle from over head to vert to flat welding a bell hole on a 45 degree angle. And that’s left and right handed also.

But that’s getting into some serious welding where everything is X-Rayed. Welding exotic metals etc… it takes yrs to master it.
Posted by WalkonQB
Member since Jun 2023
207 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 7:04 pm to
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Also, do not listen to these guys telling you to buy a leather jacket, that is a waste of money.


Unless you’re welding overhead. You’d like one then.
Posted by WhiskeyThrottle
Weatherford Tx
Member since Nov 2017
5380 posts
Posted on 5/16/24 at 9:42 am to
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Don't let anyone talk you into going and buying a Lincoln, Hobart, or Miller machine set up.


I'm mostly a self taught welder. I weld something damn near every week mostly for personal projects. I bought the Lincoln 180 (220v machine) and did flux core for my first projects. The shielding gas makes welding so much better. I knew when I started I'd stick with it long term though so adding an extra $400-500 to the machine was less of an issue. Haven't used a Harbor Freight welder, but some of the tools I've used from them like angle grinders and a plasma cutter a buddy bought, make the projects less fun. If the OP is convinced he will stick with it, I might suggest going ahead and paying a little more to get a good machine. I recently bought a miller engine drive for a project I worked on and I love that thing. But $7k for a welder and a way to transport it probably isn't what the OP is looking for.

The one thing I will stress beyond anything else is safety. Welding in tennis shoes is a bad idea. Slag melts the shoe and goes between your toes. shite goes really bad really fast with an angle grinder if you don't know what you're doing. This is where having someone show you how to properly cut metal comes in handy. I know a professional welder that severed his thumb with an angle grinder grabbing. He was a pipeline welder and started his own outfit. I've laid my arm down in a fresh weld and that isn't pleasant. I've been cutting metal only to look up and see that my sparks were aimed at a gas can. I've had cutting disks blow up in my face without safety glasses on. I've been very fortunate that I haven't been severely injured with some of this but I take note of what happened when something goes wrong and really make sure I don't make the same mistake twice.

You spend more time with prep work than you do actually welding. I know it's been mentioned a few times here, but the tighter you can make your cuts, the better off you're going to be. Cutting is equally and arguably more important than the weld in many cases. My goal is generally to get my cuts with 1/16" of where I'm going with it. Doesn't always happen. Learn to mark in a way that you can cut the line extremely straight. Having an extremely flat surface is one of the best tools you'll ever make yourself. I use my welding table on damn near every project including woodworking. You also can never have enough clamps.
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