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re: Darius garland or Trae young

Posted on 5/16/24 at 12:18 pm to
Posted by CP3forMVP
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 5/16/24 at 12:18 pm to
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Ingram is not worth a 30% max, Trae is

I don’t understand what your motive behind this is? One is a top 25 player, the other is a top 40-60 player, they are not comparable


I think this is the disconnect. Given everything involved, on and off the court, I don't think Trae is a top 25 player. I think he's closer to 40 than he is 25, to be honest. I would have him somewhere between 32-36ish. I would have BI pretty close to that as well. I think everyone we're talking about here, Trae, BI, Garland, Murray, are all hovering around the same area. Same tier sort of deal, give or take.

So back to the motive, why I ask, you can't be against BI's max but be for Trae's. That doesn't make much sense.
This post was edited on 5/16/24 at 12:21 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/16/24 at 12:20 pm to
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I think he's closer to 40 than he is 25, to be honest. I would have him somewhere between 32-36ish. I would have BI pretty close to that as well.

Correct, with BI being better
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 5/16/24 at 12:24 pm to
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I think this is the disconnect. Given everything involved, on and off the court, I don't think Trae is a top 25 player. I think he's closer to 40 than he is 25, to be honest. I would have him somewhere between 32-36ish. I would have BI pretty close to that as well.
But that doesn't make sense because BI is nowhere near as good as Trae Young. That's really, really not close.
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I think everyone we're talking about here, Trae, BI, Garland, Murray, are all hovering around the same area. Same tier sort of deal, give or take.
1 guy is the clearcut best player in that group.
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So back to the motive, why I ask, you can't be against BI's max but be for Trae's. That doesn't make much sense.
Becuase Trae is clearly better.

He's averaged 27 & 10 over the past 5 seasons. At some point, we have to ask what are we doing here wondering if guys like BI/Garland/Murray are better...they're not, and it's not close.


Now if you want to argue culture and locker room reasons, I get that. But best player, it's Trae.
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
14539 posts
Posted on 5/16/24 at 12:24 pm to
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off the court,

Name me one thing Trae has done off the court besides unsubstantiated rumors he’s a bad locker room player.

Unless it’s something factual and not substantiated rumors, I look at on the court play, and Trae is definitely top 20-25 when it comes to on court play. Ingram has already shown he cannot be a #1 and do anything but be a play in leader, Trae has shown FAR more and shown he can be a legitimate #1 when needed.
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
27350 posts
Posted on 5/16/24 at 2:30 pm to
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think this is the disconnect. Given everything involved, on and off the court, I don't think Trae is a top 25 player. I think he's closer to 40 than he is 25, to be honest. I would have him somewhere between 32-36ish. I would have BI pretty close to that as well. I think everyone we're talking about here, Trae, BI, Garland, Murray, are all hovering around the same area. Same tier sort of deal, give or take.


This is just dumb. Trae is the 32nd best player and not the 25th. Do you realize how dumb that sounds?

And you don't trade for Garland just because he is signed for longer. You get the best possible player while also taking fit into account.
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