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Could we see a return of westerns?
Posted on 5/16/24 at 5:51 pm
Posted on 5/16/24 at 5:51 pm
It’s natural unforced DEI that the suits love without ruining the story. Stick an injun in the movie and voila’ diversity.
This post was edited on 5/16/24 at 6:08 pm
Posted on 5/16/24 at 6:06 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
quote:Except unlike the good old days Indians can't be faceless villains, like Nazis in a WWII movie
Stick an injun in the movie and voila’ diversity
The genre began waning even before PC & Woke. Westerns may develop into a niche like movies about ancient Rome or WWI, but I don't see them ever being a dominant genre again.
Posted on 5/16/24 at 6:13 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
Posted on 5/16/24 at 7:06 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
johnathan Nolan can’t stop making futuristic dystopian westerns
Posted on 5/16/24 at 7:54 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
Well now that the public (or a vocal minority) has been all against cops, maybe the Cowboy is now ready to make a comeback.
Its funny, everything was Cowboy movies, for action movies, TV shows....until the 70s.....then the white hat Cowboy becomes the rogue Cop....and its all Cop shows and movies through 80s....just killing whomever because they were in the way..
It's kinda sad we basically have been pigeonholed for decades for dramatic action....Cops and Cowboys....
They're the same formula, so now that cops are seen as some type of pariah by some, the obvious box office replacement is a return to the Cowboy. Don't think Dirty Harry would sell today.
Its funny, everything was Cowboy movies, for action movies, TV shows....until the 70s.....then the white hat Cowboy becomes the rogue Cop....and its all Cop shows and movies through 80s....just killing whomever because they were in the way..
It's kinda sad we basically have been pigeonholed for decades for dramatic action....Cops and Cowboys....
They're the same formula, so now that cops are seen as some type of pariah by some, the obvious box office replacement is a return to the Cowboy. Don't think Dirty Harry would sell today.
Posted on 5/16/24 at 7:57 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
I'm curious to see how well Horizon does at the box office.
Posted on 5/16/24 at 10:04 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
I'm thankful I get the GRIT channel on DirecTv channel 81. Wish they would come out with some new movies I like Calvary westerns.
This post was edited on 5/16/24 at 10:06 pm
Posted on 5/16/24 at 10:10 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
DEI or common sense was definitely a thing back in the day. Pernell Roberts, AKA Adam left Bonanza because studios kept hiring White people to play native roles instead of actual Native Americans.
Posted on 5/16/24 at 10:36 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
Return?
They never went away.
They never went away.
Posted on 5/17/24 at 8:20 am to Hawgnsincebirth55
In the greatest television western of all time, Deadwood, the central story is a mining settlement on granted Indian territory. And there is exactly one Indian in one scene in one episode. You don't have to diversify to make good stories. We live in a time where good stories are few and far between.
Posted on 5/17/24 at 11:54 am to Hawgnsincebirth55
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Could we see a return of westerns?
maybe if you want westerns where all the men are scared frightened cucks that depend on women to protect them
thats the only kind of thing they will make today
Posted on 5/17/24 at 12:13 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
One thing that has hurt too is that they are just expensive to make. And rarely do they do well at the box office. So studios aren't too inclined to do them from a financial standpoint.
I love the genre, but I've given up hope on it being the genre it used to be. One good thing though is that TV westerns are thriving pretty good. You can definitely get your western fix streaming.
I love the genre, but I've given up hope on it being the genre it used to be. One good thing though is that TV westerns are thriving pretty good. You can definitely get your western fix streaming.
Posted on 5/17/24 at 8:57 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
Maybe. I liked Laramie but it’s hardly new.
Posted on 5/19/24 at 1:22 am to Hawgnsincebirth55
I don’t think there’s a big audience for westerns anymore.
I like a few, but personally I find them kind of dull after a while. They almost all have the exact same aesthetics. Same scenery, same sounds of horses clopping and whatnot. I bet it’s hard to come up with compelling stories that haven’t already been told when the genre is so confined. They have to take place in the west and will usually be set in the 1800s. That’s the landscape and that’s the technology available for the story.
I like a few, but personally I find them kind of dull after a while. They almost all have the exact same aesthetics. Same scenery, same sounds of horses clopping and whatnot. I bet it’s hard to come up with compelling stories that haven’t already been told when the genre is so confined. They have to take place in the west and will usually be set in the 1800s. That’s the landscape and that’s the technology available for the story.
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