re: Non leftists that are Pro Palestinian

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I’m referring to Candace Owens, glen greenwald, Dave smith, and jimmy dore amongst others. Even Joe Rogan has mentioned Israeli genocide a few times.

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i listen to Rogan, Dore, and Smith pretty regularly. Smith being my favorite.

i usually am 100% on board with him for most of his takes. if there is a political opinion, i usually already agree with him or can be swayed.

i actually have the same criticisms of him that i do with Shapiro on the other side.

Shapiro says that we have given them numerous opportunities to have a state and they leave the table because Hamas doesn't want a state. You give them really shitty options and have had land grab after land grab since the 1940s. On top of all the civilians murdered.

Smith picks up what Shapiro leaves out and then also forget that Palestinians are stuck there because Egypt doesn't want them. Egypt doesn't want them because they supported Saddam in Kuwait (got kicked out.) Assassinated the Jordanian Prime Minister after Jordan went to war with the PLO, then went to war with Lebanon,

in short, they're a shitty people who cause trouble everywhere they go.

good video on why nobody wants Palestine in 4 minutes



i think both sides are leaving out a whole lot.

Shapiro is rabidly pro-Israel, but waves away A LOT of Israel's wrong doings. I don't know that Smith is "pro-palestine" but he carries way too much water for them and waves away the fact that they launch rockets indiscriminately all the time.and have made themselves unwelcome in the entire middle east.

Israel is a-hole here, but spare me the plight of a people too stupid to stop killing themselves for their billionaire leaders living in luxury around the ME.