Pedro

3:01 is nothing to be upset about but we know it isn't what you had in mind. Once you've thought about it can you maybe share some ideas on where your training may have been off or what race mishaps may have happened to that lead to a time slower than your goal / time you thought you were prepared for.

i've had the opposite training / race results. for marathons i've always thought i was under trained /not ready and put up better results than expected but for 100 milers I've felt ready and finished very disappointed.

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Posted by BaddestAndvari

That Overweight Racist State

Member since Mar 2011

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Posted on 4/28/24 at 8:56 pm to ks_nola

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Once you've thought about it can you maybe share some ideas on where your training may have been off or what race mishaps may have happened to that lead to a time slower than your goal / time you thought you were prepared for.

I'm not Pedro and I fell apart way worst than him and didn't even get a respectable time while falling apart, but:

I think I'm switching to the Jack Daniels 2Q instead of Pfitz for my next marathon. By then I will have done even more insane milage weeks because of 100 training.

Pfitz has been great for boosting my running economy, but I don't think my endurance has been boosted even close to the same level as my running economy (I've gone from an estimated 49 vo2 max to 53 the last 7 months, but my endurance score really hasn't changed that much, and I've noticed my faster stuff getting easier but marathon pace not quite the same, even though it is easier, just not as extreme)

I will also pick better marathons, if someone dies at your marathon you are probably running a trash marathon...

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Posted by Pedro

Geaux Hawks

Member since Jul 2008

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Posted on 4/29/24 at 10:48 am to ks_nola

Thanks man. I was telling my wife yesterday one of the things I have trouble with is the different level of “good” that I feel for myself vs what others is good for a normal runner (I’m fully aware I’m the weird abnormal one in this situation). Like I know a lot of people would love to run that time in a marathon and everything and it probably makes me look like an arse being pissed I ran that time but I also have my personal expectations and when I don’t live up to them it pisses me off. Maybe it’s a transfer of my coaching mindset I don’t know. It’s not even not running the 2:40. Honestly I could’ve lived with having run even a 2:55 yesterday if it meant I ran the whole thing. It was the fact that I had to stop repeatedly that gets to me. Same thing I ask of my kids. If you’re not always running your fastest that’s okay what I care about is the effort you give. Just feel like yesterday wasn’t my best effort.

Thinking on it I think I backed off of longer continuous workouts too soon. My body definitely wasn’t able to process the lactic acid as well as it should’ve been. Even though I felt great running those 6:36/37 paced runs last week that was probably a bit too much and I probably should’ve forced myself to take it easy. I also wonder how much being sick a few weeks ago threw things off. That was a pretty crucial week and taking 5/6 days off in that period probably wasn’t great.

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