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re: Official Running Log/Marathon Training Thread

Posted on 5/2/24 at 1:48 pm to
Posted by ks_nola
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Posted on 5/2/24 at 1:48 pm to
Aubie;

how do you define diminishing returns of running anything over a half marathon?

Baddest;
why target on keeping heart rate under 140 for entire race?
staying on your feet and moving becomes a mental game especially if you think you'll be out there up to 32hrs. Tunnel Hill is notoriously fast course but don't out run yourself early. Learn how to walk with purpose. walking 4mph vs 3 mph for even 20 miles saves almost 2hrs. its very easy to get lulled into a casual walk once the miles stack up and you're tired. Another easy trap to waste hours is aid stations. Don't get lax at aid stations or with crew. Get what you need and keep walking while eating. Onsite of nightfall can really take you down. Your body just isn't use to functioning all day and then into the dark. Suggest doing night runs during training and if possible make one 20+ miles. Have a normal friday workday and then head out for long run starting 9-10pm with no nap.

Can't say there's any science behind it but successfully training for 100 miler makes marathon distance seem easy. Ran my first 100 miler (20hr) before my first marathon (2:57).
Posted by BaddestAndvari
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Posted on 5/2/24 at 9:09 pm to
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why target on keeping heart rate under 140 for entire race?


I've just heard a lot from friends that have done 100 milers to keep your HR as far away from your Lactic Threshold as you can (140 would be a true zone 2 in that regards)

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Tunnel Hill is notoriously fast course but don't out run yourself early.


Yeah my (hidden) goal is going to be a sub-24 hour finish... But I also plan to walk fast for the first few miles and let the "hype train" run off without me so I can do my own thing. (After that I'm thinking about keeping it close to 6mph for the first 60 miles)

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Don't get lax at aid stations or with crew. Get what you need and keep walking while eating.


"Less than 5 minutes per aid station"

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Onsite of nightfall can really take you down. Your body just isn't use to functioning all day and then into the dark. Suggest doing night runs during training and if possible make one 20+ miles.


I had already planned to do a 26 miler at night during the Fall

Luckily I already have a trail within 5 miles of my house that is almost exactly like tunnel hill - I will be doing my 50 mile tune-up on that trail as well.
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