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re: Money Talk challenge (1 year update)

Posted on 10/16/23 at 10:12 am to
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
74038 posts
Posted on 10/16/23 at 10:12 am to
I honestly dont care about your lying

Its just funny to witness
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
80789 posts
Posted on 10/16/23 at 11:05 am to
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And you are a making money challenges for 2k

Sure jan gif
You think someone who has dropped multiple 6 figs into btc over a period of 5+ years wouldn't make a $2k bet? I don't understand why that is so hard to believe.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
74038 posts
Posted on 10/16/23 at 2:21 pm to
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You think someone who has dropped multiple 6 figs into btc over a period of 5+ years wouldn't make a $2k bet?


No i dont. No one would be wasting there time on this site or living in Colombia if they had 6 figures to waste on bitcoin
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
80789 posts
Posted on 10/16/23 at 2:29 pm to
That is a crazy thought considering most here have been throwing money in for over 5 years.



This post was edited on 10/16/23 at 9:42 pm
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
74038 posts
Posted on 10/16/23 at 2:42 pm to
Of course you do
This post was edited on 10/16/23 at 2:42 pm
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
80789 posts
Posted on 10/16/23 at 2:56 pm to
Would you not believe someone if they said they bought 6 figs on ExxonMobil stock over the past 5-6 years? I don't see what the difference would be and I don't understand how investing $25k+ a year into something is a wild thought.

ETA: I've been saying 5-6 years...its really 6-7 years. Most of us starting buying in early 2017. Some even before then
This post was edited on 10/16/23 at 2:58 pm
Posted by TSLG
Member since Mar 2014
6724 posts
Posted on 10/17/23 at 1:04 am to
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Well he lost over $700,000


I wish that yard would have listened.

We begged him to sell more.
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
80789 posts
Posted on 12/6/23 at 8:38 pm to
Can we get an update on the bet?
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85090 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 2:43 am to
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Just an update on current standings.

May 5th BTC: $29,528.50
S&P 500: $4,136.25
NVDA: $286.80


BTC: $43,942.66
S&P 500: $4,549.34
NVDA: $455.03

BTC: +48.8%
S&P : +10.0%
NVDA: +58.7%
Posted by I Love Bama
Alabama
Member since Nov 2007
37722 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 9:37 am to


For anyone reading this, you should really consider reading the Bitcoin Standard.

Cliff Notes....

Historical Context of Money: The book begins by exploring the history of money, explaining how different societies have used various items as money, such as gold and silver. Ammous discusses the concept of 'sound money', which is money that has a store of value over long periods due to its scarcity and resistance to inflation. He argues that most historical currencies failed due to their lack of these properties. The book emphasizes the role of sound money in fostering economic prosperity and stability.

Bitcoin as Digital Gold: Ammous then introduces Bitcoin, positioning it as the digital equivalent of gold. He outlines its properties, such as decentralization, fixed supply, and resistance to censorship, which make it an excellent form of sound money. The book highlights the benefits of Bitcoin over traditional fiat currencies, like the US dollar, which can be printed at will by governments, leading to inflation and devaluation. Ammous argues that Bitcoin's digital nature and limited supply give it an edge over gold and make it an ideal store of value in the digital age.

Economic and Societal Implications: Finally, "The Bitcoin Standard" explores the broader economic and societal implications of adopting Bitcoin as a global standard. Ammous suggests that Bitcoin could lead to a more prosperous and stable global economy by reducing governments' ability to inflate currency supplies and by fostering greater financial discipline. He also discusses potential challenges and criticisms of Bitcoin, such as scalability issues and energy consumption, but generally maintains an optimistic view of its future role in the global financial system.

Overall, the book is both a historical analysis of money and a forward-looking thesis on how Bitcoin could reshape our understanding and use of currency in the future.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86536 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 9:42 am to
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resistance to censorship


this is an elementary level question I've had that hopefully you can answer.If a govt was to make bitcoin illegal and shut down the on/off ramps, how would that play out? Like if I've got a cold wallet with bitcoin but have no way to transfer it to money in my bank, do I just accept that the BTC I hold is now going to have to be used to actually buy stuff and use it as a currency?
Posted by I Love Bama
Alabama
Member since Nov 2007
37722 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 10:19 am to
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this is an elementary level question I've had that hopefully you can answer.If a govt was to make bitcoin illegal and shut down the on/off ramps, how would that play out? Like if I've got a cold wallet with bitcoin but have no way to transfer it to money in my bank, do I just accept that the BTC I hold is now going to have to be used to actually buy stuff and use it as a currency?


Great question. This has already been done before.

In 1933 the government made Gold illegal to have. That was not lifted until 1974.

There would be some short term problems for sure! That said, when the government made gold illegal, were people still using it and was it a valuable asset?

Of course.

That said, in a month or less, we will have a Bitcoin ETF. After the ETF, it's pretty much over for what the government can do.

If that is a main concern for you, just wait until the ETF is up and running.

The USA has zero control over Bitcoin. This is a world wide asset that will have value no matter what the USA does.

Posted by I Love Bama
Alabama
Member since Nov 2007
37722 posts
Posted on 5/4/24 at 10:29 am to
This has been a fun read one year later.



Big Sur is going to make some Colombian girls very happy.

Good morning from Pereira, Colombia
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85090 posts
Posted on 5/4/24 at 10:42 am to
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Big Sur is going to make some Colombian girls very happy.


Still ducking NVDA I see.
Posted by I Love Bama
Alabama
Member since Nov 2007
37722 posts
Posted on 5/4/24 at 10:44 am to
NVdA was an amazing call. But no bet was made. I am not sure how that’s hard for you to grasp.

But since we are tracking it since it was mentioned.

NVDA - 222%
Bitcoin - 120%
S&P500 - 26%

S&P has done much better than I had thought it would actually but as I mentioned in the other thread, the rise is only because of the magnificent 7. 490 of the companies showed very little growth if any

This post was edited on 5/4/24 at 10:51 am
Posted by Big_Sur
Member since Nov 2012
1122 posts
Posted on 5/5/24 at 11:41 am to
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bUT nOoooo. S&p 500 or iTs gAMbeLiNG!

yOu DOnT UnDErstand!!!

herpppppppp derpppppp.

8% rETURNs BrOooooo


1 year down, 1 to go!

S&P500 moved higher than expected.

BTC had the expected dramatic highs and lows. A month from now, it could be at $20k. Or $100k. It's a complete gamble. Not inflation hedge, not a currency, not a store of value - just betting on hype.

Nvidia the clear winner at this halfway stage.




This post was edited on 5/5/24 at 11:42 am
Posted by Big_Sur
Member since Nov 2012
1122 posts
Posted on 5/5/24 at 11:44 am to
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Big Sur is going to make some Colombian girls very happy


No you still misunderstanding...if BTC wins a year from now, you can spend your cash donation on the underprivileged third world ladies.

If S&P is up in a year, the ladies don't get the extra funds from I Love Bama (just their normal funds), but a legitimate non profit here in the greatest country on earth benefits from a donation by me.

I tried to structure the bet so its win-win for I Love Bama.
This post was edited on 5/5/24 at 12:17 pm
Posted by go ta hell ole miss
Member since Jan 2007
13646 posts
Posted on 5/5/24 at 12:26 pm to
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NVdA was an amazing call. But no bet was made. I am not sure how that’s hard for you to grasp.


Winning the bet would have cost me over a thousands of dollars so far and likely much more by next year. That is not winning, that is foolish and dumb. Just like your take that Bitcoin would be better than any stock. More reason why all you Bitcoin fluffers that act like you know more than everyone just don’t understand finances as a whole.

You got owned at your own little game up to this moment.. Anyone who reads this knows I made you my little bitch up to this point. That is worth far more than money from the bet, especially since that would have already cost me four figures by escrowing it instead of putting it in NVDA.
This post was edited on 5/5/24 at 12:36 pm
Posted by Jag_Warrior
Virginia
Member since May 2015
4121 posts
Posted on 5/5/24 at 1:55 pm to
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a legitimate non profit here in the greatest country on earth benefits from a donation by me.


Nothing to do with this internet “challenge” game, but I set up an investment fund to do the very same thing several years ago. Just feels right.

No offense to him, but remember that the fellow that you’re responding to said, “God I grow to hate this country more and more by the day.” It was some proposed tax policy that triggered him, but still… I’d never say such a thing, even with a gun pointed at my head.
Posted by Big_Sur
Member since Nov 2012
1122 posts
Posted on 5/5/24 at 2:35 pm to
It's so important to give back and help after having been so blessed in life.

Despite its flaws, the USA has done more to help the world raise it's standard of well-being than any country in the history of the world.

We live in an unparalleled time of prosperity, health, equality, and freedom. Shouldn't be taken for granted over petty excesses of the left and right.
This post was edited on 5/5/24 at 2:42 pm
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