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re: KOC: League sources "expect" Pelicans to be aggressive in trade market

Posted on 5/1/24 at 9:32 am to
Posted by duyp
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Posted on 5/1/24 at 9:32 am to
Where do you see that at? They see him as more of an option 2. Is he worth that max extension? If they’re not going to offer him that, he can make more in the open market. If they saw him as a premier player they would’ve offered him an extension last year, which they didn’t. It’s funny how you call people bozos without stating shite behind it.
This post was edited on 5/1/24 at 9:35 am
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
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Posted on 5/1/24 at 9:34 am to
I did not realize Lauri was going to be an expiring. He might be able to be got then.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 5/1/24 at 9:43 am to
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NBACentral @TheDunkCentral

The Orlando Magic are interested in Paul George, per @ramonashelburne

"There's two teams that are paying very close attention to Paul George: the Orlando Magic and the Philadelphia 76ers, because both of them have the money to throw at him and have a need for a wing just like him, a veteran guy."


If the Clippers don't blow it up, would Ingram be an option they'd consider?
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
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Posted on 5/1/24 at 9:45 am to
What are you thinking? Isaac and Anthony?
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 5/1/24 at 9:51 am to
I'm thinking they don't have a lot of stuff that I want, but yeah, it would have to include Isaac and Anthony gives you your irrational confidence scoring off the bench. But unless you start Isaac, which maybe you do, that seems like a pretty low return even if they throw in a bunch of future picks. It's a bunch of C+ at best assets for what is in theory a B player.

I like a Murray based deal better, but I also don't want to get stuck on this same path and keep BI hoping for a better option to magically come along. Those BI comments about a needing a point guard to unlock his 3 point shooting when Zion has the 9th most 3 point assists is just another piece of evidence saying this partnership is never going to work.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
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Posted on 5/1/24 at 9:53 am to
I remember the reports that BI did not like Point Zion, and we kind of shrugged about it at the time.

its clear that it is very true, and it is never going to fully work between those two on the court.
Posted by tzimme4
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 5/1/24 at 9:55 am to
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Did you read anything about their end of the season interviews?

They've said that since they acquired him. He's valued much more than BI by Utah
Posted by tzimme4
Metairie
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Posted on 5/1/24 at 9:57 am to
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Where do you see that at?

Talk to any insider or anyone with a pulse on the Jazz. It's quite obvious, hell, even the brain dead betting gurus know this when betting his daily props the last two seasons,
Posted by whatiknowsofar
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Posted on 5/1/24 at 10:09 am to
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the Clippers don't blow it up, would Ingram be an option they'd consider?


I forgot PG is an UFA. We'd have to agree to a s&t and that normally doesn't happen
This post was edited on 5/1/24 at 10:13 am
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 5/1/24 at 10:14 am to
I don't know about BI and Trey for PG.
But I'd trade BI and multiple 1sts to get PG. Playoff P is a real thing.


Posted by Macintosh504
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Posted on 5/1/24 at 10:25 am to
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What are you thinking? Isaac and Anthony?
suggs and Isaac and give them 21, BI
This post was edited on 5/1/24 at 10:27 am
Posted by duyp
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 5/1/24 at 10:31 am to
Then why didn’t they offer him a contract extension last year? The Jazz even came out saying they’re not sure if they can meet his timeline of contending. What does betting have to do with how important lauri is to Utah? I’m a gamblaholic and I can promise you that professionals teams/players dgaf what us gamblers think.

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“I don’t want to waste any years, but you also have to do it within the timeline that makes sense,” Zanik said. “We’re not trying to say, ‘Hey, Lauri, we want to make you happy. You’ve never made the playoffs so we’re gonna just burn all our picks and get some marginal-level repeat player and maybe we’ll be a seven seed.’ The goal is to make the playoffs and then grow from there.”
This post was edited on 5/1/24 at 10:39 am
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
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Posted on 5/1/24 at 10:33 am to
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“I don’t want to waste any years, but you also have to do it within the timeline that makes sense,” Zanik said. “We’re not trying to say, ‘Hey, Lauri, we want to make you happy. You’ve never made the playoffs so we’re gonna just burn all our picks and get some marginal-level repeat player and maybe we’ll be a seven seed.’ The goal is to make the playoffs and then grow from there.”


That's interesting.

I wonder if there's a way to make a 3-4 teamer work, where BI goes to more of a contender, we can get Lauri (and Sexton?), and Utah gets more young players and picks.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25866 posts
Posted on 5/1/24 at 10:38 am to
I know we are all in the trade BI this offseason, but CJ was beyond horrible on defense in the playoffs.
OKC hunted him constantly.
Outside of Dort going 1-6 against him from 3, the rest of OKC was 33-56 for 59% against him. 80 points and 15 assists against him on 197 possessions. 247 total points scored by OKC on 197 possessions while CJ was on the floor. That's 1.25 points per possession. OKC averaged 1.18 on the year. They averaged 1.09 in this 4 game sweep.


The only way you can justify defense that bad is if you are putting up 30-40 yourself. Brunson might not be the best defender, but he makes up for it on offense, same with Lillard, same with Trae. Lillard and Trae are just as bad if not more.


Posted by duyp
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 5/1/24 at 10:43 am to
To add to it. A lot of fans think that the organization will most likely wants to tank for Cooper Flagg. They see Lauri more of a high 2 than a 1 option.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61598 posts
Posted on 5/1/24 at 10:43 am to
If you're not paying BI $50 million you can afford to have CJ shift to a bench role. If one or both of Dyson/Hawkins aren't going to be good enough to take his place long term you probably need to trade them sooner than later.
Posted by duyp
Member since May 2011
2709 posts
Posted on 5/1/24 at 10:45 am to
But somehow we were still decent on defense. We just couldn’t score. I think we can fix his deficiency on defense by not wasting his energy on offense. If we can find a guard who can be a floor general and make CJ a catch and shoot guy, we be fine.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
116328 posts
Posted on 5/1/24 at 10:45 am to
The unprotected Lakers 2025 and the Top 4 on the Bucks 2025 would probably be extremely appealing to them. As many bites at the apple in 2025 as they can get.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 5/1/24 at 10:51 am to
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The unprotected Lakers 2025
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knowing our curses, we'd trade it and it end up being top 3.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
116328 posts
Posted on 5/1/24 at 10:52 am to
Yeah its hard to trade it until you know what Lebron is doing.

Also let's say you get Lauri (which I am advocating for)...

Where do you play him? Center?
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