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Deadheading pilot tried to crash a commercial aircraft last night
Posted on 10/23/23 at 10:33 am
Posted on 10/23/23 at 10:33 am
https://twitter.com/jonostrower/status/1716463941298323664
Audio between the plane's pilot and ATC:
YouTube
The pilot said the threat level escalated to a 4 when the incident was going on. Any pilots on here know how high that scale goes? Is 4 the highest?
Booking info (Emerson, Joseph David...who is an Alaska Air pilot):
https://www.mcso.us/PAID/Home/Booking/1573087?fbclid=IwAR1vOD1HhDStoFv541D9kkXbLa7xLII_RkKrtbY538Et1g5v1iIM_Ezsfbk
He's charged with 83 counts of attempted murder, 83 counts of reckless endangerment and 1 count of endangering an aircraft.
Reading the thread on airliners.net, they make it sound like some gymnastics had to occur to prevent him from pulling the levers.
https://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1488261
quote:
Jon Ostrower
@jonostrower
The FAA sent the following security notice to U.S. carriers, according to a U.S. airline staffer who received the message directly:
“Last night a significant security event occurred on a US Air Carrier involving a validated jump seat passenger attempting to disable aircraft engines while at cruise altitude by
deploying the engine fire suppression system. The crew was able to subdue the suspect and was removed from the flight deck. The flight diverted and landed safely. The event remains
under investigation by law enforcement, no further details will be provided at this time.”
Audio between the plane's pilot and ATC:
YouTube
The pilot said the threat level escalated to a 4 when the incident was going on. Any pilots on here know how high that scale goes? Is 4 the highest?
Booking info (Emerson, Joseph David...who is an Alaska Air pilot):
https://www.mcso.us/PAID/Home/Booking/1573087?fbclid=IwAR1vOD1HhDStoFv541D9kkXbLa7xLII_RkKrtbY538Et1g5v1iIM_Ezsfbk
He's charged with 83 counts of attempted murder, 83 counts of reckless endangerment and 1 count of endangering an aircraft.
Reading the thread on airliners.net, they make it sound like some gymnastics had to occur to prevent him from pulling the levers.
https://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1488261
This post was edited on 10/23/23 at 10:39 am
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Posted on 10/23/23 at 10:34 am to bikerack
A man needs a name
Posted on 10/23/23 at 10:34 am to bikerack
derka derka?
Posted on 10/23/23 at 10:34 am to bikerack
I read it as beheaded pilot crashed and figured that's what would happen
Posted on 10/23/23 at 10:34 am to SG_Geaux
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A man needs a name
I'll be adding the booking into to the OP shortly. Forgot to do that.
Posted on 10/23/23 at 10:36 am to SG_Geaux
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A man needs a name
Educated guess: Abdul Ahmed Salaam
Posted on 10/23/23 at 10:36 am to bikerack
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Any pilots on here know how high that scale goes?
yes
quote:
Is 4 the highest?
not today Mr. al-Zawahiri
Posted on 10/23/23 at 10:38 am to bikerack
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Is 4 the highest?
It goes to 11.
Posted on 10/23/23 at 10:41 am to bikerack
Alaska/Horizon gets all the wacko employees.
Posted on 10/23/23 at 10:42 am to bikerack
LINK
I dont know if this is what a pilot would actually use though.
quote:
Level 1 — Disruptive behavior (verbal);
Level 2 — Physically abusive behavior;
Level 3 — Life-threatening behavior (or display of a weapon);
Level 4 — Attempted or actual breach of the flight crew compartment.
I dont know if this is what a pilot would actually use though.
Posted on 10/23/23 at 10:44 am to kengel2
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Deadheading pilot tried to crash a commercial aircraft last night
That doesn't sound ideal.
Posted on 10/23/23 at 10:53 am to TDTOM
I was picturing Jerry Garcia.
Posted on 10/23/23 at 10:53 am to TDTOM
quote:
The flight from Paine Field in Everett to San Francisco was diverted to Portland International Airport where it landed safely. Alaska Air said in a statement the crew “secured the aircraft without incident.” KATU — KOMO's sister station in Portland — reported the suspect was an off-duty pilot.
LINK
Posted on 10/23/23 at 10:54 am to bikerack
Man, frick all that. I hate flying bad enough, but then to have some psycho trying to physically crash the plane. I would not have handled that well. 
Also:
777, why do those things exist (I assume they are used when engines are on fire maybe?) and why aren't they a little less accessible?
Also:
quote:
Horizon E175 from Seattle to San Francisco had to divert to Portland after the pilot sitting in the jumpseat inside the cockpit tried to reach both Engine Fire handles on the overhead panel, which would cause both engines to stop receiving fuel and shut down.
777, why do those things exist (I assume they are used when engines are on fire maybe?) and why aren't they a little less accessible?
This post was edited on 10/23/23 at 10:58 am
Posted on 10/23/23 at 10:57 am to TDTOM
quote:
Deadheading pilot tried to crash a commercial aircraft last night
That doesn't sound ideal.
a pilot riding on the jump seat does not mean he’s dead heading, or even with the same company
Posted on 10/23/23 at 10:58 am to bikerack
Scary. What’s easier for this guy to do, try to deploy the fire suppression system or straight nose dive a plane he would’ve been piloting? Either way, sucks that a guy like this is a pilot
Posted on 10/23/23 at 10:59 am to bikerack
Posted on 10/23/23 at 10:59 am to IT_Dawg
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Either way, sucks that a guy like this is a pilot
you can 100% thank the wokeness movement for this
Posted on 10/23/23 at 11:03 am to redstick13
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Not even the first time it’s happened.
I’ve got the cockpit voice recorder transcript from the FBI from that, it’s scary how close they came to losing that plane, a couple of times, also incredible how dumb the FBI is
Posted on 10/23/23 at 11:11 am to 777Tiger
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I’ve got the cockpit voice recorder transcript from the FBI from that, it’s scary how close they came to losing that plane, a couple of times, also i
Didn't even have to click the link. The guy had 2 or 3 hammers and a fricking spear gun in his bad! Trying to commit suicide and wanted it to look like an accident so payment wouldn't be delayed. He was about to get fired, I think.
fricked up both pilots, but they lived.
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