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School sues autistic student for threatening to kill principal
Posted on 1/13/23 at 12:46 pm
Posted on 1/13/23 at 12:46 pm
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Good for the school IMO.
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Cullman City school files criminal charge against student with disability, claims harassment
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Cullman City Schools has filed a criminal harassment charge against a student diagnosed with Asperger’s, a move that may be in violation of federal law.
Earlier this month, Melanie Roberts, the defendant’s mother, received a summons saying her son, a senior at Cullman High School, was being charged with criminal harassment for a comment he made in October about his school’s administration, a misdemeanor punishable by up to 90 days in jail.
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In a hearing held Thursday morning at the Cullman County Courthouse, Roberts and her family sat in disbelief as they awaited the judge.
“I didn’t sleep at all last night,” said Roberts. “Instead of being at school, we’re here.”
Principal Allison Tuggle is listed as the plaintiff on the summons; she was not present at the hearing.
“My son has the right to face his accuser,” said Roberts, who kept an eye on the door throughout the hearing.
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Roberts said high school staff have not given her son required behavioral support services, have pushed him into virtual learning and have overreacted to inappropriate comments at school, culminating in the unusual circumstance of a principal filing a criminal charge.
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According to Roberts, the school initially removed the student from campus in October after he said he “would just love to kill administration.” The criminal charge came three months later.
Roberts said her son did not mean to be threatening.
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“This year a new administration was hired and they’d call me every other day to tell me that my son had said something inappropriate. Eventually, they started following him around the school, asking him wouldn’t he rather be in virtual school, until he had a meltdown,” said Roberts.
“He’s never been violent - he just doesn’t have a filter and that’s because of his Asperger’s.”
Good for the school IMO.
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Posted on 1/13/23 at 12:48 pm to StringedInstruments
quote:I'm not sure it's a good precedent to set to start kicking out people who are challenged.
Good for the school IMO.
That said, I completely understand it, especially in today's world. If anyone is being threatening, you at least have to take the threat seriously at first and dive deeper.
Posted on 1/13/23 at 12:49 pm to StringedInstruments
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threatening to kill principal
Maybe she deserved it?
Posted on 1/13/23 at 12:49 pm to saint tiger225
That is such a misinterpretation of the events.
Student threatens to murder the principal and is receiving consequences for said actions but you spin it as they’re kicking him out because he’s challenged? Gtfo
Student threatens to murder the principal and is receiving consequences for said actions but you spin it as they’re kicking him out because he’s challenged? Gtfo
This post was edited on 1/13/23 at 12:51 pm
Posted on 1/13/23 at 12:52 pm to Shite_kicker
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Student threatens to murder the principal and is receiving consequences for said actions but you spin it as they’re kicking him out because he’s challenged? Gtfo
Yup. Although the OP title is correct.
Posted on 1/13/23 at 12:56 pm to StringedInstruments
School will very likely not win this battle and it was a stupid play on their part.
School wants kid with Special Needs out because he's very difficult to deal with.
Parent says they kept telling him they wanted him to go virtual and it set him off.
If he actually has any Autism disorder, he literally doesn't have the frontal lobe brain capacity to filter his emotions and words and actions that come from them effectively and adults continuously pushing his buttons was a very bad idea.
It also says they weren't providing services that were legally agreed to.
I get that people take advantage of the system, but from the way this is described, the school leaders made some bad decisions and should have found a more amicable way to get this kid out of Gen Pop so to speak.
Also, I'm not saying kid was right or parents are good people, but I am saying the school ain't gonna win this battle if they actually did things in this way.
School wants kid with Special Needs out because he's very difficult to deal with.
Parent says they kept telling him they wanted him to go virtual and it set him off.
If he actually has any Autism disorder, he literally doesn't have the frontal lobe brain capacity to filter his emotions and words and actions that come from them effectively and adults continuously pushing his buttons was a very bad idea.
It also says they weren't providing services that were legally agreed to.
I get that people take advantage of the system, but from the way this is described, the school leaders made some bad decisions and should have found a more amicable way to get this kid out of Gen Pop so to speak.
Also, I'm not saying kid was right or parents are good people, but I am saying the school ain't gonna win this battle if they actually did things in this way.
This post was edited on 1/13/23 at 12:58 pm
Posted on 1/13/23 at 12:59 pm to Shite_kicker
I clearly said I understand it.
My first point was responding to him in a general sense that I don't think it's a good precedent to start kicking out challenged kids.
And I understand why they did this and feel it was the right steps to take.
My first point was responding to him in a general sense that I don't think it's a good precedent to start kicking out challenged kids.
And I understand why they did this and feel it was the right steps to take.
Posted on 1/13/23 at 1:00 pm to StringedInstruments
As much as i understand the kid has issues, these same kids figure out how to work the system.
If you ever know a kid that has autism or Asperger’s then you understand they aren’t completely inept. They understand right and wrong. People just want to play that up as something they can’t really comprehend anything which is BS
If you ever know a kid that has autism or Asperger’s then you understand they aren’t completely inept. They understand right and wrong. People just want to play that up as something they can’t really comprehend anything which is BS
Posted on 1/13/23 at 1:03 pm to StringedInstruments
There's a lot of competing bullshite here.
That kid should probably not be "mainstreamed" into an ordinary school. On the other hand, autism excuses nothing criminally IMO.
Finally, schools are much too quick to lean on the cops nowadays. It's laziness.
That kid should probably not be "mainstreamed" into an ordinary school. On the other hand, autism excuses nothing criminally IMO.
Finally, schools are much too quick to lean on the cops nowadays. It's laziness.
This post was edited on 1/13/23 at 1:04 pm
Posted on 1/13/23 at 1:10 pm to Fat and Happy
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If you ever know a kid that has autism or Asperger’s then you understand they aren’t completely inept.
It all depends on the kid
Very wide spectrum
This post was edited on 1/13/23 at 1:10 pm
Posted on 1/13/23 at 1:27 pm to Fat and Happy
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If you ever know a kid that has autism or Asperger’s then you understand they aren’t completely inept. They understand right and wrong. People just want to play that up as something they can’t really comprehend anything which is BS
You cant generalize the disorder. Its a spectrum Some are completely inept at decision making and understanding right and wrong in many aspect of life. Others are very competent.
Posted on 1/13/23 at 1:30 pm to ThuperThumpin
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You cant generalize the disorder. Its a spectrum Some are completely inept at decision making and understanding right and wrong in many aspect of life. Others are very competent.
Either way, schools shouldn’t have to put up with children who are making threatening comments especially in today’s environment. Is it a place of learning or a mental health institution?
Posted on 1/13/23 at 1:34 pm to USMEagles
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On the other hand, autism excuses nothing criminally IMO.
If you dont believe autism excuses criminal behavior, do you believe any mental disorder excuses criminal behavior? Thats not to say that mentally incompetent criminals should not be removed from society but I think it should have some bearing on how legal justice is carried out.
This post was edited on 1/13/23 at 5:56 pm
Posted on 1/13/23 at 1:35 pm to ThuperThumpin
This isn't Nam, there are rules here.
And if that kid can't follow the rules, then he needs to be in an alternative school.
And if that kid can't follow the rules, then he needs to be in an alternative school.
Posted on 1/13/23 at 1:39 pm to StringedInstruments
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Either way, schools shouldn’t have to put up with children who are making threatening comments especially in today’s environment. Is it a place of learning or a mental health institution?
100% agree that the school shouldn't have to put up with that behavior, but the criminal complaint seems like too much. That being said, there is probably a whole lot left out of this story we aren't getting.
Also, the author made sure to get this in the article
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Nationwide, schools refer tens of thousands of students to law enforcement every year according to the Center for Public Integrity, with Black students and students with disabilities “getting the brunt of it.”
Posted on 1/13/23 at 1:41 pm to StringedInstruments
School isnt suing anyone. They filed a criminal complaint and DA is prosecuting. (Correct me if wrong)
Sadly, only viable course of action is criminal charges when taking further administrative action will lead to school being sued and/or administrators disciplined.
Too often the system now caters to the problem children at expense of the masses. I feel for those with challenges but schools must have means to discipline and enforce standards including behavior and academics.
Sadly, only viable course of action is criminal charges when taking further administrative action will lead to school being sued and/or administrators disciplined.
Too often the system now caters to the problem children at expense of the masses. I feel for those with challenges but schools must have means to discipline and enforce standards including behavior and academics.
Posted on 1/13/23 at 1:42 pm to StringedInstruments
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Cullman City school files criminal charge against student with disability, claims harassment
Unless I am missing something, a school cant file a criminal charge. The DA does this.
And no one is sued in a state criminal court.
Posted on 1/13/23 at 1:45 pm to jchamil
I have mixed emotions here. My wife is a special ed teacher, and systems dump kids into schools that aren't equipped for the challenge. Parents lie to get them in the program, and they (and others) stick their fingers in their ears during any conversation about issues. Could be violence, disruptive behavior, pooping in pants, you name it.
Story feels like it is lacking information. I doubt this was out of the blue, but I also feel like school admins in some places suck donkey balls.
Story feels like it is lacking information. I doubt this was out of the blue, but I also feel like school admins in some places suck donkey balls.
Posted on 1/13/23 at 1:47 pm to StringedInstruments
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Either way, schools shouldn’t have to put up with children who are making threatening comments especially in today’s environment. Is it a place of learning or a mental health institution?
I agree. I have a stepson that is autistic. Its a day by day struggle and there have been times he had to be removed and placed in specialized facilities to help him. Then he re-integrates back into normal school and a few years later started to act up again and we repeat the process.
This post was edited on 1/13/23 at 1:48 pm
Posted on 1/13/23 at 1:55 pm to TorchtheFlyingTiger
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Too often the system now caters to the problem children at expense of the masses. I feel for those with challenges but schools must have means to discipline and enforce standards including behavior and academics.
This is specifically why EBR schools struggle, and why they can't keep teachers.
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