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Posted on 10/7/23 at 7:40 am
Posted by Bamafig
Member since Nov 2018
3173 posts
Posted on 10/7/23 at 7:40 am
We are told that it is the best in the world behind the US. Either this is a massive failure or was allowed to happen. If the latter, why, is the question.
Posted by Northwestern tiger
Long Island NY
Member since Oct 2005
23485 posts
Posted on 10/7/23 at 7:42 am to
Israel as a state is not a viable option in the ME.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67515 posts
Posted on 10/7/23 at 7:43 am to
Says every country in the ME but Israel.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
119067 posts
Posted on 10/7/23 at 7:43 am to
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Israel as a state is not a viable option in the ME.


What? Israel is quit viable right now.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
424210 posts
Posted on 10/7/23 at 7:45 am to
No intelligence apparatus is perfect.
Posted by Northwestern tiger
Long Island NY
Member since Oct 2005
23485 posts
Posted on 10/7/23 at 7:46 am to
Eventually they will be fighting hundreds of millions of Muslims.
20% of Israel population is Muslim and it’s only going up.
So many things going against it.
Today few thousands with rifles parachutes themselves to 10 settlements.
It will only get worse.
Posted by Bourre
Da Parish
Member since Nov 2012
20303 posts
Posted on 10/7/23 at 7:46 am to
An influx of 6 billion from Biden to Iran helps answer the question
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
424210 posts
Posted on 10/7/23 at 7:50 am to
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It will only get worse.

Not if SA and a couple other Arab oil nations developed a little bit more and stepped up. Trump had this on the right path, and Biden has completely screwed the pooch. This is probably his worst Presidential policy. It is utterly insane how liberals have created such a martyr out of Jamal Khashoggi that they'd push these terrible policies to "punish" SA. Literally could cost the US trillions over time.

Leftists just have to give up the dream that Persian Iran is on the verge of that magical civil war that will oust the imans from power, and permit Iran to become the hegemon in the ME and get Saudi Arabia in line. SA is much more likely to join modernity over time
Posted by TDsngumbo
Alpha Silverfox
Member since Oct 2011
41773 posts
Posted on 10/7/23 at 7:52 am to
The world’s best intelligence agency allowed 9/11 to happen. Anything is possible.
Posted by Northwestern tiger
Long Island NY
Member since Oct 2005
23485 posts
Posted on 10/7/23 at 7:56 am to
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Not if SA and a couple other Arab oil nations developed a little bit more and stepped up.


The average Muslim in the arab street stands strong with pals and despise Israel and their own Arab governments.
Gov will come and go. Another Arab spring could topple all those so called Arab governments and usher a new era of rule.
It’s bound to happen. Nothing stays the same.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65147 posts
Posted on 10/7/23 at 8:01 am to
The thing about terrorist organizations like Hamas is that they only have to catch Israeli intelligence with their pants down once. How many surprise attacks have been thwarted preemptively that we never hear about?
Posted by Original Bayou Boy
Flat Lake, LA
Member since Sep 2003
11272 posts
Posted on 10/7/23 at 8:04 am to
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Eventually they will be fighting hundreds of millions of Muslims.
20% of Israel population is Muslim and it’s only going up.
So many things going against it.
Today few thousands with rifles parachutes themselves to 10 settlements.
It will only get worse.


What is an anti-semetic wet dream to you, will never happen.
The rocket sites could be taken out at any time. Israel doesn't want a full scale war, which would affect it's economy and disrupt daily life.

Israel will retaliate in a most violent manner. You are thinking like a candy arse American, not like an Israeli.
Posted by Northwestern tiger
Long Island NY
Member since Oct 2005
23485 posts
Posted on 10/7/23 at 8:10 am to
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Israel will retaliate in a most violent manner.


That’s what Hamas wants. They thrive with wars and conflict.
It will never end
Posted by Northwestern tiger
Long Island NY
Member since Oct 2005
23485 posts
Posted on 10/7/23 at 8:11 am to
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What is an anti-semetic wet dream to you, will never happen.


It not anti-Semitic you idiot. It’s reality.
90 % of Muslims despise Israel, even those in the far East.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
27876 posts
Posted on 10/7/23 at 8:23 am to
Something like this had to be in the planning stages for months. You are looking at coordinated attacks and specific location with the Army barracks. This was not some spur of the moment thing. Israeli Intel is good to very good, but Hamas and Hezbollah have been fighting them for 40 years. It is not inconceivable that they have leaned a thing or two.
Posted by RAB
Member since Aug 2019
1005 posts
Posted on 10/7/23 at 8:23 am to
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Israel as a state is not a viable option in the ME.


Israel is far more stable than any other nation in the Middle East. They can even change governments without executing citizens in the streets. It is crazy.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
27876 posts
Posted on 10/7/23 at 8:28 am to
I don't know about 90%. I suspect....shite, I know that the disdain for Palestinians in Jordan and Lebanon is just as great if not greater.
Posted by DRMPHD
College Station, Texas
Member since Jun 2018
192 posts
Posted on 10/7/23 at 8:32 am to
Israel is on the verge of normalizing relations with Saudi Arabia. That would be a game changer. Palestinians are less liked in the Muslim world than you might think. Normalizing relations between Israel and Saudi Arabia would be a disaster for the Palestinians. This is a transparent attempt by Hamas to prevent that.
Posted by Northwestern tiger
Long Island NY
Member since Oct 2005
23485 posts
Posted on 10/7/23 at 8:34 am to
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Israel is on the verge of normalizing relations with Saudi Arabia.


Yeah that’s different than normalizing their relationship with the citizens of Saudi Arabia.
Posted by chity
Chicago, Il
Member since Dec 2008
6096 posts
Posted on 10/7/23 at 8:41 am to
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The world’s best intelligence agency allowed 9/11 to happen. Anything is possible.


What about the bad Weapons of Mass Destruction intel that got us involved in the gulf war.

Was that intentional or bad intel?
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