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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 5/2/24 at 3:29 pm to
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 5/2/24 at 3:29 pm to
Yes,,but Putin has an objective and he is willing to make any sacrifice to achieve it. He has actually doubled down. He knew all he had to do is hang on. Putin don't give a damn regarding the sacrifices that the Russian people have to make. That is their history. Putin will not quit unless he.is thoroughly defeated. Russia hasn't changed one bit since the fall of the Soviet Union. They did not have to go through a cleansing, de-nazification or what happened to Japan after WWII. Russia was never cleansed of the Soviet structures. That is the difference.
When war gets to a state of attrition the side that can or produces the most wins. For example, the Eastern front in WWII. The Nazis had to knockout the Soviets quickly. Even they knew that. When that didn't happen and the front stalled, it was over. Germany could not out produce the Soviets in material or manpower and the rest is history.

Ukraine's manpower shortage is critical and the west has not delivered the materials needed for Ukraine to win. That chance was missed in 2022.
This post was edited on 5/2/24 at 3:38 pm
Posted by CitizenK
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Member since Aug 2019
9665 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 3:42 pm to
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Germany could not out produce the Soviets in material or manpower and the rest is history.


part of the issue was Germany made tanks one by one, handfitting parts like a Rolls Royce. Russia used Henry Ford methods of assembly line mass production. Also consider that every German offense stopped when it ran out of enough fuel to maneuver. Rommel could well have taken Egypt crossed the Suez and marched up to take oilfields in the Middle East (Syria) then the oilfields in Iran if he had enough fuel. So he was actually stopped before Montgomery assumed command in North Africa.

Russia was once a manufacturing powerhouse but it has lost all of that and is dependent on imports to have the tooling necessary to build anything. It has been dependent on the West and now is dependent on China for technology even to keep its Western built refineries and chemical plants operating.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 5/2/24 at 3:46 pm to
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Yes,,but Putin has an objective


Yes to conquer Ukraine.

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He has actually doubled down
Because he lost his first bet and then decided he couldn’t accept defeat.

quote] He knew all he had to do is hang on[/quote] Actually he learned the hard way, the only way he could win was to wear Ukrsine down.

By every measure Putin has fallen short to date. He began having a major advantage, and two years after his two year special operation is over he has been reduced to grinding Ukraine down.

He is certainly not a military genius, he just is the dictator of a large nation trying to impose his will on a much smaller and having a hard time doing it.
This post was edited on 5/2/24 at 3:47 pm
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