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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 5/2/24 at 3:52 pm to
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 5/2/24 at 3:52 pm to
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Russia was once a manufacturing powerhouse but it has lost all of that and is dependent on imports to have the tooling necessary to build anything. It has been dependent on the West and now is dependent on China for technology even to keep its Western built refineries and chemical plants operating.


They are still.out producing or obtaining more than the west has provided. Plus their enormous stock piles left over from the cold war.

But most importantly, they can produce far more men than Ukraine can.

2022 was Ukraine's chance and that opportunity was wasted.
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 5/2/24 at 3:59 pm to
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They are still.out producing or obtaining more than the west has provided. Plus their enormous stock piles left over from the cold war.


The west can FAR out produce Russia if we choose to buckle down and do it. The problem for the US specifically is how defense contracts work... its way more expensive for us to produce equivalent stuff.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
19784 posts
Posted on 5/2/24 at 4:30 pm to
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2022 was Ukraine's chance and that opportunity was wasted.


Unlike the Russians, the American and NATO military doesn't depend so much on artillery, but air and armor. Meanwhile, Ukraine is advised by US and NATO, but they don't have the air power to make it work since Russia still has some air superiority.

Ukraine needs a bunch of F16's with contractor pilots and maintenance to augment Ukraine's pilots and maintenance crews in training.

Posted by Pfft
Member since Jul 2014
3730 posts
Posted on 5/3/24 at 7:51 am to
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But most importantly, they can produce far more men than Ukraine can


Same thing happened in WW2. They were getting tens and hundreds of thousands of men captured in the early part of the german offensive. Yet at the end of the war they had 3 million men on the door step of Berlin.
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