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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 5/14/24 at 8:14 am to
Posted by WeeWee
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Posted on 5/14/24 at 8:14 am to
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Therefore if we "grind Russia down" and don't plan on going in ourselves with NATO to finish the job, all we are really doing is strengthening their military and their military economy long term


How are they strengthening their military? Russia has lost over 3000 tanks in this war. Those were T90s, T80s, and modernized T72s which were its most advanced tanks. Those tanks are being replaced by unmodernized T72s, T62s, and T55s pulled from storage. Same thing applies to its helicopters, planes, APCs, and the quality of the training of its troops. Russia’s military economy might be expanding but they are replacing licensed western technology like the fire control system on their tanks with cold war era technology.

I will admit that a Weimar Republic type situation in Russia is not ideal, but it’s better than letting Putin and his cronies continue to be in charge. Putin and his cronies have openly stated that their goal is recreate the Russian empire and that means taking back the Baltic countries which are NATO members. That means WW3. It will take Russia 10-20 years to rebuild its military back to being “2nd strongest army in the world” once the fighting is over in Ukraine. Putin is 71 so 10-20 years will likely see him out of the picture. Hopefully the rest of NATO continues to build up their military capabilities so Putin and/or his successor will not even contemplate attacking a NATO nation. Wearing down Russia is the only way to prevent WW3 IMHO because if Russia succeeds in Ukraine the Baltic countries will be next.
Posted by VolSquatch
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Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 5/14/24 at 8:19 am to
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How are they strengthening their military? Russia has lost over 3000 tanks in this war. Those were T90s, T80s, and modernized T72s which were its most advanced tanks. Those tanks are being replaced by unmodernized T72s, T62s, and T55s pulled from storage. Same thing applies to its helicopters, planes, APCs, and the quality of the training of its troops. Russia’s military economy might be expanding but they are replacing licensed western technology like the fire control system on their tanks with cold war era technology.


You're looking at this short term. Their military likely won't be strengthened during this war, but in the years after its entirely possible if not the most likely outcome that the equipment they are pulling out of storage will be replaced with newly manufactured equipment. Its unlikely that a nation as large and with as many people and natural resources as Russia just withers away into a shell of itself and not rebuild its military, regardless of the result of the Ukraine War.
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