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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 5/15/24 at 8:32 pm to
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 5/15/24 at 8:32 pm to
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the collective West decides "there's no fricking way we're letting Putin win" he will be stopped. Just like Hitler was stopped, and Hitler was much stronger and had an infinitely superior military to Putin.


Hitler would have won if the U.S. hadn’t joined. The same applies here. I’m not advocating for or against NAT0 troops in Ukraine, but the reality is Russia won’t be defeated by Ukraine soldiers alone.
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 5/15/24 at 9:07 pm to
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Hitler would have won if the U.S. hadn’t joined. The same applies here. I’m not advocating for or against NAT0 troops in Ukraine, but the reality is Russia won’t be defeated by Ukraine soldiers alone.


I hope we learned our lesson about letting things get to that point before we had to jump in...

I saw some retired general or other, etc., be asked "what will stop Putin?"

And he said "The President of the United States, The PM of the UK, The President of France, The PM of Poland, maybe Germany and then whoever else wants to be at the podium... they have to say 'We're going to back Ukraine in this and expel Russia, for however long it takes, and WHATEVER it takes!' And they should do that, because if not we're about to see a world where Wars just become a widespread thing whenever someone wants to conquer their neighbors."

"And then the next day Putin would throw a hissyfit and launch every drone, missile, glide bomb, and bottle rocket he has at Ukraine, and hopefully air defense would be waiting for that... and he'd probably do that every day for a week, or two, or three... and then he'd have to realize he can't do that forever and these countries have all backed themselves into a corner where they have to keep their word or they are laughing stocks... and that's something he would understand because he is a creature of pride. And then he'd have to decide how he wants the last decade or two of his life to be spent and how he can afford to hold control over his own country when this war is draining everything and crashing his economy. And then maybe he'd decide it wasn't worth it. Or he might just go out desperately fighting until he's exhausted,"
This post was edited on 5/15/24 at 9:08 pm
Posted by CitizenK
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Member since Aug 2019
9662 posts
Posted on 5/15/24 at 9:30 pm to
I haven't been to this is at least a year. If you zoom in, lots of juicy targets in Russia are aflame, manufacturing, tank storage, airfields.

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