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re: Anyone built a barndominium?

Posted on 4/19/23 at 1:05 pm to
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
67051 posts
Posted on 4/19/23 at 1:05 pm to
you couldn’t afford one, pipe down.
Posted by Kjnstkmn
Vermilion Parish
Member since Aug 2020
10812 posts
Posted on 4/19/23 at 1:09 pm to
Seems like if you are a DIY, and build over a long period of time, and can self-finance or finance through some alternate mechanism besides a mortgage (401K loan, etc…), and don’t care about equity loans - this would be a good way to hide your property value from the assessors?

Looks like just a shop from the outside.
Posted by MoClassy
Member since Jul 2021
30 posts
Posted on 4/19/23 at 1:27 pm to
Good idea if you live on acreage and have horses.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
27188 posts
Posted on 4/19/23 at 1:34 pm to
If you think that's a lot, I just did work on a barndominium that had to be over $3 million. It was baller, if these sorts of things can be baller. Top of the line everything.

Back to OP, one of my employees just priced one and it came in stupid high and he was going to have trouble financing it.
Posted by ChuckUFarley
Up in heh!
Member since Jun 2022
316 posts
Posted on 4/19/23 at 2:27 pm to
My dad is in the process of having one built right now. Creed Construction out of Shreveport is doing the build. Pouring the slab this week. 3bed/3bath with two regular garage bays and a large one for his camper. Should be done by November hopefully
Posted by Wraytex
San Antonio - Gonzales
Member since Jun 2020
2024 posts
Posted on 4/19/23 at 2:30 pm to
Currently in the middle of our barn build.....



Images are a bit dated. We had plans drawn and have done just about everything ourselves - Me and the Wife (NP). We are currently finishing wiring and any wall penetrations before we have it spray foamed. Spraying the shell, including underside of roof tin.

Particulars are 50x90 gross, 2745' living with great room 26x50 with 12' ceilings, all other rooms with 10' ceilings. Barn/garage is last 30'
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
7377 posts
Posted on 4/19/23 at 2:33 pm to
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Looking to build one for me and the wife. Wondering about cost differences compared to a normal home.

Anyone had any luck with one or know someone who could build one?



The only advantage is the speed with which the shell can be dried in. Foundation is the same, interior finishes are the same. If you plan to remodel significantly there is an advantage there but most people never do a remodel to the extent that would be easier in a shell building.

A lot of counties won't allow it and a lot of mortgage options aren't available so resell value will take a hit.

It's a shame because under the right circumstances they could well be a significant cost savings. If the county will allow it you could dry it in and move in and do the interior out of pocket on your own when you had the money and time. Most won't allow it...occupancy permits generally require a finished building and water, sewage and power, even with wells and septic tanks, often require an occupancy permit.

Outside of the speed they can be dried in there ain't much of an advantage. If you can stick build a house with trusses the cost to dry in is about the same. The foundation and the interior finishes will be the same and the mortgage companies fear of anything different will hamper resell. Not in all areas but in a bunch of areas.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
7377 posts
Posted on 4/19/23 at 2:38 pm to
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I would like to just build the metal structure, get it approved as a “shop” and then build out the rest as I see fit.

Possibly considering container homes in the future if I can find the right piece of land.


This is the ideal situation, unfortunately a sizeable amount of the nation has an authority having jurisdiction that will not allow it. It is also nearly impossible to do unless you can do it out of pocket and if you can do that you'd be better off investing elsewhere.

It really is a shame that most counties won't allow you to build a shop, finish a bathroom, a bedroom, a simple kitchen and a living area with the idea that the other 2000 square feet will be finished out of pocket as needed. Some will allow it...many will not.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
7377 posts
Posted on 4/19/23 at 2:45 pm to
I would build one today if it weren't for zoning restrictions and mortgage companies being hesitant to do deals on them...resell values can be hampered significantly, about like a used mobile home in some areas.

I would do the interior like a spec built commercial space with metal studs and lay in ceilings. It would cost about the same as stick built building but it could be done as needed easier and could be remodeled as needed easier. It'd cost about the same though...
Posted by lsubuddy
houma, la
Member since Jul 2014
4335 posts
Posted on 4/19/23 at 2:52 pm to
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what metal buildings survived


Talking over these sort of things with friends once - one said if he could afford it he'd buy an offshore supply boat from one of those repo yards or something(1 mil +), get waterfront property,redo the inside. If he felt he wanted to leave ,hire a captain to move it.
Would have to have some $$$$$$$
Posted by Honest Tune
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2011
15899 posts
Posted on 4/19/23 at 2:59 pm to
quote:

This is the ideal situation, unfortunately a sizeable amount of the nation has an authority having jurisdiction that will not allow it. It is also nearly impossible to do unless you can do it out of pocket and if you can do that you'd be better off investing elsewhere. It really is a shame that most counties won't allow you to build a shop, finish a bathroom, a bedroom, a simple kitchen and a living area with the idea that the other 2000 square feet will be finished out of pocket as needed. Some will allow it...many will not.


Yes these are obstacles most will run into doing it this way. And someone else, or maybe it was you, mentioned re-selling obstacles.
Posted by White Bear
Yonnygo
Member since Jul 2014
14102 posts
Posted on 4/19/23 at 3:34 pm to
Hell naw, Sounds like some Luke Bryan Aldean shite there baw.
Posted by When in Rome
Telegraph Road
Member since Jan 2011
35567 posts
Posted on 4/19/23 at 3:36 pm to
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I just did work on a barndominium that had to be over $3 million. It was baller, if these sorts of things can be baller. Top of the line everything.
But at that point why not build a house?
Posted by White Bear
Yonnygo
Member since Jul 2014
14102 posts
Posted on 4/19/23 at 3:39 pm to
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But at that point why not build a house?
Can’t park my tractor in a house baw.
Posted by Bayou Ken
Member since Sep 2018
78 posts
Posted on 4/19/23 at 4:44 pm to
Here is a quote for an enclosed 50 x 40 Kit from Stroud's Building Supply in NC. If you spray foam, you may want to consider using OSB/plywood for the exterior and the roof. If you spray foam directly on the metal, it may void the warranty and if you need to replace metal panels, it would be very difficult.

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Posted by Basura Blanco
Member since Dec 2011
8489 posts
Posted on 4/19/23 at 5:09 pm to
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Closed cell spray foam


An unbelievably awesome product that can produce some unbelievable bad results when used in home construction and you don't take into consideration you are going to be living in a Yeti ice chest with doors and windows.
Posted by RedlandsTiger
Greenwell Springs, LA
Member since Jan 2008
2947 posts
Posted on 4/19/23 at 5:11 pm to
Check this gals website out in Texas. LINK
Posted by latech15
Member since Aug 2015
1179 posts
Posted on 4/19/23 at 5:17 pm to
Like what? I understand that a completely foamed system will need a mechanism for bringing in fresh air, but that is pretty common in the hvac world.

I’m interested in other cons to spray foam.
Posted by blueridgeTiger
Granbury, TX
Member since Jun 2004
20393 posts
Posted on 4/19/23 at 5:24 pm to
Just buy yourself 10 acres in the Hill Country of Texas for $129,000 and get a free barndominium:

Hill Country Ranches



Posted by turkish
Member since Aug 2016
1803 posts
Posted on 4/19/23 at 6:14 pm to
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