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re: Planted summer plots today

Posted on 6/11/23 at 9:56 pm to
Posted by The Levee
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Posted on 6/11/23 at 9:56 pm to
Urea
Posted by Outdoorreb
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Posted on 6/11/23 at 11:14 pm to
I would after it comes up. If it was covered there might still be some, but it would be smart to reapply. If it wasn’t covered then there basically nothing left.
Posted by The Levee
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Posted on 6/12/23 at 6:09 am to
We covered it well with our homemade hurricane fence harrow/crop coverer
Posted by The Levee
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Posted on 6/12/23 at 8:32 pm to
Got 1/10th of an inch today.
Posted by jimjackandjose
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Posted on 6/12/23 at 10:04 pm to
Planted sorghum end of May and got some germination but not enough. This rain should’ve brought me home

Clay peas planted Friday and Saturday. Got enough rain they may have drowned.

Going to be hot rest of summer
Posted by Outdoorreb
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Posted on 6/12/23 at 10:21 pm to
Summer has not been nice so far. Luckily I have 100 acres of beans and they are looking good, but the dry land is starting to stress a good bit. I planted dry land in late March luckily.
Vetch has been in the ground for a week almost, and this is the latest I have ever had Vetch not actively growing.
Some Chiwapa millet has been in the ground for almost 3 weeks.
Posted by The Levee
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Posted on 6/12/23 at 11:04 pm to
I’m going cover crop with GreenCover from here on out. Summer and Fall release. I’m tired of this shite lol

And I’m about 1/4 the way through Dirt to Soil. Great recommendation in this thread. I may become a farmer because it’s fun, heartbreaking and addicting. Much like Golf.
Posted by Outdoorreb
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Posted on 6/12/23 at 11:42 pm to
quote:

I may become a farmer because it’s fun, heartbreaking and addicting. Much like Golf.

You joke but farming isn’t for the faint of heart. There is a reason most farmers dink a lot.
Posted by Da Hammer
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Posted on 6/13/23 at 6:52 am to
Dont forget expensive! The more you do it the more crap you figure out you need to make your job easier then once you get there you break it all and have to figure out how to fix it and get it running again.... And equipment NEVER breaks when you don't need it....

On a side note Levee what makes you think a summer blend would fare any better than anything else planting when it's as dry as it is right now? I am not asking that to be a jerk asking out of curiosity. Seems like anything planted after May 1 is struggling right now. I can't see coated seeds making that much difference am I missing something on them?
Posted by The Levee
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Posted on 6/13/23 at 8:24 am to
I understand the trials and tribulations of farming. My grandad was tree farmer of the year once. And before that we had a sharecropper farm for about 200 years

About the GreenCover seed: I’d rather just push forward with this. If something is going to grow by the grace of God, I’d rather it be 13 different plants that complement each other and allow me a chance at planting into a cover crop in October. I want to just bite the bullet and get a no-till drill.
Posted by Outdoorreb
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Posted on 6/13/23 at 9:26 am to
quote:

I can't see coated seeds making that much difference am I missing something on them?


It will be more for the no-till part mainly. If you don’t have to turn the ground over it will hold moisture longer.
A drought is a drought no matter what kind of plan you have going though.
Posted by Da Hammer
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Posted on 6/13/23 at 9:30 am to
The NT drill is by far and away the best purchase I have made for our place. The don't give them away but the time they save and the job they do are amazing. I can't speak highly enough about them.

As far as the Green Cover seed I too am getting sucked down the regenerative worm hole. I am no where near where you are I am just starting to try and understand it and was looking at their products the last few days mainly because of you mentioning them.

I could be way wrong but I suspect no matter what was planted this year if planted in May it will struggle due to the weather. I would love to be proven wrong on that.

I will say I drilled about 40 acres in late April and that stuff is doing very well because it got enough rain to get going. I planted another 40 acres first weekend of May and most of it isn't coming up except where it gets shade. No matter how hard I try I can never get ahead of mother nature.
Posted by The Levee
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Posted on 6/13/23 at 10:14 am to
She can be a bitch. I’m learning. Maybe pulling the rope in the same direction as Mother Nature, rather than against her, is the correct path.

I’d venture to say that getting a cover crop up first is essential in protecting future seed plantings from the sun and drought. Not only by physical barrier but by making the actual soil more permeable and porous to water. Giving your soil the natural ability to retain MORE water for longer periods of time while everyone else’s turned up dirt roasts in the sun. That’s what I’ve gathered from Gabe Brown’s book so far.

I suggest reading it as it’s a quick, easy, and enjoyable read.

LINK
This post was edited on 6/13/23 at 10:27 am
Posted by Da Hammer
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Posted on 6/13/23 at 11:34 am to
I already ordered it...

Hope to start it next week...
Posted by Bayou Ken
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 6/13/23 at 9:29 pm to
I've been researching roller crimpers. Here are some options that I've looked at.

Goliath - Most expensive
Patriot 6' $4,100
Titan 6' & 8'(4,000) - 6 footer out of stock
Rippin it Outdoors 5' - $4,000
Remlinger Ninja 5' with light package
Posted by The Levee
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Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 6/13/23 at 10:59 pm to
Thanks Bayou

The titan has a weight listed at 1100lbs

The Goliath is 1400 without water and 2000 with water
This post was edited on 6/13/23 at 11:04 pm
Posted by Da Hammer
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Posted on 6/14/23 at 7:00 am to
Is there a recommended speed to run when cimping?

Reason I ask is if you can't go relatively fast while doing so a small crimper (under 8') would seem somewhat like pissing in the wind?
Posted by The Levee
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Posted on 6/14/23 at 7:10 am to
I think RTP recommends 4-7mph. That may be just for the drill though
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 6/14/23 at 7:12 am to
quote:

Maybe pulling the rope in the same direction as Mother Nature, rather than against her, is the correct path.
I wish more people (especially larger farms but also individual landowners and even small homeowners) would accept that what they see with their own eyes every day is the best way. Our earth and our soils and our entire biosphere has been perfected and optimized over billions of years to run at peak efficiency

that optimization does not include tilling, herbicides, chemical fertilizers or selective monoculture nor does it need it. Mankind is smart enough to harness the immense power that the earth gives us for free, if we would only quit fighting her

Kudos to you
Posted by Da Hammer
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Posted on 6/14/23 at 7:15 am to
I have a great plains drill and I plant in that speed range typically about 5.5 mph and in long straight smooth runs sometimes 6-7 mph.

Just processing all of this, I was on the genesis site just now trying to figure that out but I would assume you could go that speed as well. Bigger seems like it would be better weight and coverage wise.
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