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Posted on 6/13/23 at 3:43 pm to baldona
Posted on 6/13/23 at 3:43 pm to baldona
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Europe is generally VERY family friendly. My recommendation for little kids is to avoid the BIG cities...as a guy that's been to London and Paris
And to add on to cost, when you think paris or london think nyc in terms of expenses (lodging, food, activities, museums). Getting out from a major city in any country will drive costs down. This is especially true in arreas of France, Italy, Greece, Bavaria, Croatia, etc.
One other point about euro travel that is great for family travel is how close everything is. Except for the major cities, many airports are close to destinations and the train connectivity is excellent. If you are willing to travel within europe to seperate destinations flights are very quick from between countries (nothing like dc to LA).
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Posted on 6/13/23 at 3:49 pm to Foch
Isn't it great that there are so many options for travel?
The thought of touring Europe with kids and bouncing from city to city sounds like absolute frigging misery to me. And I spent a few weeks in Europe every year for a decade doing just that, sans kids.
I am definitely more of a "we're here" vacation person. Now, we may run from place to place and have a busy schedule, but we aren't catching planes and trains and changing hotels.
I wonder if your vacation desires are formed by your work type? If you work in an office all the time, you want to see as much as possible? If you travel all the time, might you just want to sit still?
The thought of touring Europe with kids and bouncing from city to city sounds like absolute frigging misery to me. And I spent a few weeks in Europe every year for a decade doing just that, sans kids.
I am definitely more of a "we're here" vacation person. Now, we may run from place to place and have a busy schedule, but we aren't catching planes and trains and changing hotels.
I wonder if your vacation desires are formed by your work type? If you work in an office all the time, you want to see as much as possible? If you travel all the time, might you just want to sit still?
Posted on 6/13/23 at 4:32 pm to concrete_tiger
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I am definitely more of a "we're here" vacation person. Now, we may run from place to place and have a busy schedule, but we aren't catching planes and trains and changing hotels.
For us with kids we have a bit of a different take. I am military and we have been travelling back to visit family in LA since they were young. A 3.5 hour flight for them isn't a big deal to manage (plan it for nap time, restrict tablet usage in daily life so it is a treat for travel, don't let them miss a meal).
When we travel (whether with kids or solo) we have a 3 night minimum and 4-6 night preferred for each destination within a greater trip. We also only attempt 2 "sights" maximum per day. We don't like to drive over 45-60 minutes to/from a thing to see. Drives tire everyone out more than people realize. Other tip for long trips is to plan a walking location/city for the front end to get over het lag. Also, get some of the underseat inflatable pillows for kids that turn their seats into a lie flat chair/bed. Bring melatonin.
Posted on 6/14/23 at 9:04 am to TigerGrad2011
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even the Florida panhandle and we started down a rabbit hole of places we could get to with airfare with our families for the same price as these vacations.
Went thru this same thought process a few years back. We ended up going to St. John in the Virgin Islands, it was last minute so I didn’t have time to get my kids passport but we had a great time & I highly recommend it.
The prices for Florida gulf coast are frickin insane. I know they really spiked initially because of Covid but I figured they would come back down to earth by now. I can’t bring myself to spend that much to go to a beach in Florida when I can go to a tropical location out of country for the same price or cheaper.
Posted on 6/14/23 at 4:21 pm to TigerGrad2011
People saying Europe need to realize the arse raping in cost it causes.
Taking my family of 5 to France for a family wedding this summer
$6,100 in plane tickets for economy. That’s before a single cent is spent on anything else. It’s FAR MORE EXPENSIVE than a Disney trip or anything else here in the states. Don’t let people fool you
Taking my family of 5 to France for a family wedding this summer
$6,100 in plane tickets for economy. That’s before a single cent is spent on anything else. It’s FAR MORE EXPENSIVE than a Disney trip or anything else here in the states. Don’t let people fool you
Posted on 6/14/23 at 4:25 pm to whoa
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Went thru this same thought process a few years back.
If you haven't been out of the country this year you need to check prices again. International this year is extremely expensive due to demand and people going back to places they haven't been able to go for awhile.
A LOT of travel is just expensive right now just like many things in the economy.
Posted on 6/14/23 at 4:28 pm to lsupride87
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People saying Europe need to realize the arse raping in cost it causes.
Ha yeah I said this earlier. You can go extremely cheap to europe to close to the same price that you can blow out Disney. But anyone that acts like Disney done somewhat affordably is similar to going to Europe is simply just wrong or being disengenious on the true costs.
Posted on 6/14/23 at 4:31 pm to baldona
I’m pretty confident Europe for my family is going to cost an easy 10-12k 
Posted on 6/14/23 at 6:46 pm to baldona
Well I wasn’t thinking Europe or Asia. More like the Caribbean or South America.
Posted on 6/16/23 at 9:09 am to slinger1317
No need to pay 10k for a Disney trip. Can get it for 1/3 that price
Posted on 6/16/23 at 10:23 am to lsupride87
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People saying Europe need to realize the arse raping in cost it causes.
Taking my family of 5 to France for a family wedding this summer
$6,100 in plane tickets for economy. That’s before a single cent is spent on anything else. It’s FAR MORE EXPENSIVE than a Disney trip or anything else here in the states. Don’t let people fool you
I do not understand where people on this board come up with these idiotic statements like traveling to Europe with your family is cheaper than going to Disney
Posted on 6/16/23 at 10:50 am to hubertcumberdale
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I do not understand where people on this board come up with these idiotic statements like traveling to Europe with your family is cheaper than going to Disney
For me, the daily cost of a Europe trip is about half of a disney trip (based on my own detailed tracking). That said, I always use miles for flights, which is a big outlay for a Europe trip if not. Also, My Europe trips are usually ~2 weeks, so more in absolute terms. I find I get much more bang for my dollar in Europe, but we're not a disney family at all.
To the OP's question, San Sebastian is a great destination. Great beach, which is usually a hit with kids. Playgrounds all over the city. Causal, good dining options. Very kid friendly.
Posted on 6/16/23 at 11:06 am to hubertcumberdale
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I do not understand where people on this board come up with these idiotic statements like traveling to Europe with your family is cheaper than going to Disney
They heard it once and just run with it OR they're not comparing the two logically.
Posted on 6/16/23 at 12:07 pm to lsupride87
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I’m pretty confident Europe for my family is going to cost an easy 10-12k
Dublin for my family of 3 cost $7-8k for a week and I'm a cheapskate. Depending on what the OP likes to do, he would be better looking into Costa Rica, the Caribbean, or somewhere in Canada like Banff.
Posted on 6/16/23 at 10:39 pm to Foch
quote:We caught one of those deals for an extended Memorial Day/week trip to London. $1K tickets on AA/BA. Actually flew out the Saturday before Memorial Day and back on Tuesday of the following week, so 9 days or so split between London and Paris.
one stop flights from BTR to Paris in the $650s in December a few months ago
Our kiddos are young teens at this point, so the trip was more museums and stuff like that than anything "fun." OTOH, they had a blast eating their way through Paris--trying escargot, every variety of crepe, and baguettes for days. Watched a Shakespeare play in The Globe, traveled out to Stonehenge and Windsor. Saw Versailles, climbed the Eiffel tower, and viewed the Mona Lisa.
I haven't done a full calculation of the trip cost yet, but I'm guessing somewhere in the $12K range: $5K for flights, $4K for hotels, $2K for meals/snacks/pastries, and $1K for various event tickets. Maybe another $1K for transportation in and to/from London/Paris. Chunk of money for sure, but it was a monster trip.
Posted on 6/16/23 at 11:02 pm to GeauxTigers777
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once oldest around 10-12) will do African safari
Many camps won't allow kids until they are 12 or older. Shoot more for approximately age 14 for safari.
Posted on 6/21/23 at 4:39 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
Here is a great recent review of curacao. Its in spanish but you can kind of skip thru and see the scenes. And the beautiful lady has one of the nicest butts on youtube
LINK
Im in puerto rico right now and even though this place is nice, I find that id rather curacao from a beach and snorkeling perspective.
LINK
Im in puerto rico right now and even though this place is nice, I find that id rather curacao from a beach and snorkeling perspective.
This post was edited on 6/21/23 at 4:41 pm
Posted on 6/21/23 at 5:16 pm to LemmyLives
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You can "order" lobster for $1-2 a piece (not a pound) to cook in your villa from fishermen just boating by. Kids get exhausted fast, and you can pay pennies for people to come cook for you at said villa. You can also stay on the south end of the island and be more touristy.
Relaxing AF. Plenty of properties that can stick four or five groups of adults and crumb snatchers in different villas that connect to the same central living room/kitchen.
This sounds awesome. You have any recommendations on actual places to stay?
Posted on 6/21/23 at 5:18 pm to TigerGrad2011
When I was young (pre-puberty) our family rented houses for a week or two at a time in the Irish and English countryside. It was a great time because we got to go on cool hikes and play on the ruins of forts. It's good for a family because you can cook at the house, and the nearest town with good dining was rarely more than 30 minutes away.
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