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re: ATL Thread | 2023 offseason hot takes + discussion

Posted on 1/10/24 at 6:04 pm to
Posted by auyushu
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Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 1/10/24 at 6:04 pm to
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why would you not be willing to pay a 30 year old pitcher through age 37 knowing that you get 3 extra "prime" years?


I personally wouldn't want to sign a pitcher over 30 who has already had TJ to a 7 year deal myself, particularly when they missed a good portion of the most recent season injured with forearm tightness.

There is significantly more risk in a 7 year deal than 3, no matter who the player is. But I'm just going by AA's actions really with my thoughts on going after Wheeler (plus the whole Georgia connection thing) I, not what I would do. It's pretty clear AA is super risky adverse to long term deals to pitchers over a certain age. And given the history of said deals, he has good reason to be.

Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
71432 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 6:19 pm to
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I personally wouldn't want to sign a pitcher over 30 who has already had TJ to a 7 year deal myself


Having one TJ should be no reason to be scared off.

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There is significantly more risk in a 7 year deal than 3, no matter who the player is.


I mean yeah, but if you're in the "only give out contracts to sure things" business, you're in the wrong business.
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 1/11/24 at 11:45 am to
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There is significantly more risk in a 7 year deal than 3, no matter who the player is.


I get they were discounts, but we give out long contracts all the time. We risked having a guy get hurt and give us nothing on a not insignificant amount of money for a long, long time. Or in some cases risk a guy having a Heyward type career and his peak coming early.
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 1/11/24 at 12:00 pm to
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Having one TJ should be no reason to be scared off


I still think the blisters are a factor here as well. I think Max is a great pitcher but this has been an issue for his entire career and he has said that the humidity exacerbates this problem.
Posted by lsusa
Doing Missionary work for LSU
Member since Oct 2005
4662 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 4:06 pm to
Looks like Fried agreed to a deal to avoid arbitration. Not earth shattering news but trends positive.
Posted by Broski
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71432 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 9:08 am to
AA extended through 2031
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
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Posted on 1/12/24 at 9:41 am to
Posted by LCLa
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Posted on 1/12/24 at 10:06 am to
No 1% to the Braves Foundation?
Posted by 21zereaux
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 1/12/24 at 10:55 am to
I wonder if he signed a ‘team friendly deal’?
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
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Posted on 1/12/24 at 11:38 am to
I will be curious to see how he does once we are in rebuild mode.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
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Posted on 1/12/24 at 11:59 am to
Posted by RunningJacket
Member since Dec 2008
257 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 12:05 pm to
Every year is rebuild mode which is why the Braves are solid to good most of the time. We just signed the #1 international prospect. That’s a greater coup than resigning Fried yet it will go unnoticed for 2-3 years and then all of a sudden the Braves will have a top 5 prospect that we can call up for years. Just because AA rebuilds while winning doesn’t mean he isn’t. You don’t have to lose 100 games to rebuild.
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
2246 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 12:09 pm to
Whats wrong with what I said? Didn't imply he would do well or do poorly.

Actually say something productive or frick off dude, seriously. No wonder everyone downvotes everything you say
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
2246 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 12:11 pm to
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Every year is rebuild mode


We both know thats not what I'm talking about. A full rebuild is different from adding to a team with an extremely cheap core that should make things easy.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
35230 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 12:28 pm to
Well with the way the Braves are built we won't even have to worry about a rebuild for at least a decade.


Posted by POCKET
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 1/12/24 at 12:29 pm to
Big news, Charlie Culberson invited to spring training as a pitcher
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
35230 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 12:29 pm to
Everyone knows you're an alter. And I'm not here to be liked. It's a message board for God's sake.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
71432 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 12:31 pm to
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Big news, Charlie Culberson invited to spring training as a pitcher



ShoWho?
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
71432 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 12:33 pm to
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That’s a greater coup than resigning Fried


Holy shite, no, signing a 17-year-old who may or may not wear a Braves uniform is not a greater "coup" than re-signing arguably the best LHP currently in the game.

We get it, you think Fried is overrated, but stop tying everything that we do as reason for you to establish your hatred for Fried.
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
2246 posts
Posted on 1/12/24 at 12:33 pm to
Its not about being liked, its about what you say
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