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DeBoer = Harsin 2.0?
Posted on 1/12/24 at 9:27 am
Posted on 1/12/24 at 9:27 am
If DeBoer is the hire, could we see a similar trajectory to that of CBH during his time at Auburn?
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Posted on 1/12/24 at 9:28 am to GSLSU
DeBoar would be walking in to a MUCH better situation than Harsin did
Posted on 1/12/24 at 9:28 am to GSLSU
No
Posted on 1/12/24 at 9:29 am to GSLSU
I don't know that it would be that quick, but I think a Harsin trajectory is more likely than a NC.
I also think DeBoer would be insane for passing on the Seattle job for the Bama job (assuming he's been offered both).
I also think DeBoer would be insane for passing on the Seattle job for the Bama job (assuming he's been offered both).
Posted on 1/12/24 at 9:29 am to GSLSU
Dumb fans act like Harsin's problem was where he was from when the issue was that he was a jerk, not a great football mind, and didn't recruit
Posted on 1/12/24 at 9:30 am to UpToPar
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I also think DeBoer would be insane for passing on the Seattle job for the Bama job (assuming he's been offered both).
Seattle would be insane to hire DeBoar over Vrable.
Posted on 1/12/24 at 9:30 am to GSLSU
DeBoer is a much better coach than Harsin.
Recruiting abilities might be similar though. However, it'll be much easier to recruit at Bama than Auburn I'd have to imagine.
Recruiting abilities might be similar though. However, it'll be much easier to recruit at Bama than Auburn I'd have to imagine.
Posted on 1/12/24 at 9:30 am to GSLSU
Yes. Every coach from the PNW is exactly the same person. They are clones.
Posted on 1/12/24 at 9:31 am to VolSquatch
Harsin was the coach at Boise state. Not the coach who just had a heisman candidate and was in the championship game. This comparison is probably a troll
Posted on 1/12/24 at 9:31 am to GSLSU
He is a much better coach and walking into a much better situation. That being said, he will still have trouble with having no history in the region and that really hurt Harsin, among his other shortcomings.
Posted on 1/12/24 at 9:33 am to GSLSU
He is not coming to Bama… don’t even know if he was contacted but he will get a raise at UW
Posted on 1/12/24 at 9:33 am to VolSquatch
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Dumb fans act like Harsin's problem was where he was from when the issue was that he was a jerk, not a great football mind, and didn't recruit
I don't know. That side piece that he brought with him from Boise, says other wise.
Posted on 1/12/24 at 9:34 am to Bear88
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He is not coming to Bama
Who is?
Posted on 1/12/24 at 9:34 am to GSLSU
I must have missed Harsin's national title game appearances and 12-1 record against ranked teams
This post was edited on 1/12/24 at 9:36 am
Posted on 1/12/24 at 9:37 am to GSLSU
I think he is a better coach than Harsin but it would still be a very risky hire. Very little head coaching experience and zero experience without an established starter at QB. No ties to the south and with the exception of a few transfers, is almost exclusively recruiting the west coast.
Posted on 1/12/24 at 9:44 am to GSLSU
I think Harsin was an arsehole. I don't get that vibe from DeBoer.
His defense this year was bad tho. LSU actaully had a better pass d.
Total Defense:
Rank Team
96 Washington - 406.7 ypg
105 LSU - 416.6 ypg
Pass D:
115 LSU-comp% allowed -63.81% - ypg 255.6
117 Wash-comp% allowed -59.18%-ypg 258.6
Rush Defense
58 Washington - ypr - 4.69 - ypg 148.1
85 LSU - ypr-4.53 - ypg 161
Scoring Defense
54 Washington PPG 24.8
T-78 LSU PPG 28
His defense this year was bad tho. LSU actaully had a better pass d.
Total Defense:
Rank Team
96 Washington - 406.7 ypg
105 LSU - 416.6 ypg
Pass D:
115 LSU-comp% allowed -63.81% - ypg 255.6
117 Wash-comp% allowed -59.18%-ypg 258.6
Rush Defense
58 Washington - ypr - 4.69 - ypg 148.1
85 LSU - ypr-4.53 - ypg 161
Scoring Defense
54 Washington PPG 24.8
T-78 LSU PPG 28
This post was edited on 1/12/24 at 10:10 am
Posted on 1/12/24 at 9:50 am to Returnofzeus
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Who is?
My guess is an assistant coach such as Schumann type hire . Byrne doesn’t leak anything so all these media guys just speculate or agents throw their name out there . Wished we could have gotten Sark or Kiffin but nobody wants to follow Saban and I don’t blame them really
Posted on 1/12/24 at 10:33 am to GSLSU
quote:
If DeBoer is the hire, could we see a similar trajectory to that of CBH during his time at Auburn?
Posted on 1/12/24 at 10:40 am to VolSquatch
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he was a jerk, not a great football mind, and didn't recruit
Got all that from the one season, not even a calendar year, at Auburn?
Seems he was a good enough “football mind” to fool some really good “football minds” into letting him coach for them.
Didn’t recruit? He wasn’t given a chance to. I’m not defending someone I don’t really know, just contending that you don’t know shite either
Posted on 1/12/24 at 10:57 am to 0
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Very little head coaching experience and zero experience without an established starter at QB
He is 104-12 as a head coach. His NAIA accomplishments shouldn't just be dismissed out of hand.
Guys like DeBoer, Leipold, Klieman, Brian Kelly, Jim Tressel, etc who have sustained success at lower levels, without a steady stream of resources and blue chip recruits, still manage to win when they move up.
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No ties to the south and with the exception of a few transfers, is almost exclusively recruiting the west coast.
DeBoer had no ties to the West Coast until he got to Fresno. They went from 1 win to 10 wins in his first season as OC. The "regional ties" argument is vastly overrated.
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