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re: If you have kids starting to search for college/career... what is left worth pursuing?

Posted on 2/5/24 at 5:19 pm to
Posted by Bayou
CenLA
Member since Feb 2005
36975 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 5:19 pm to
Today college is not an efficient use of your money.
Liberals train these kids and company's have to de-program them for the real world.
Hands on experience and training is key today
Posted by Billy Blanks
Member since Dec 2021
3824 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 5:21 pm to
The network you meet is what you're really paying for.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
119692 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 5:30 pm to
Skilled industry. Plumbing, welding, etc.

Make more money, no college debt
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
22704 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 5:34 pm to
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I'm a physical therapist and people will always get hurt! Don't see automation taking my job anytime soon either. Gotta have people skills and know anatomy and physiology like the back of your hand. It is a lot of schooling though.


Govt going to dictate how much y’all can make in the not too distant future
Posted by auwaterfowler
Alabama
Member since Jan 2020
1997 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 5:35 pm to
Airline pilot. Delta sponsors a great program at Auburn. I’m sure there are several other universities that offer similar programs. It will take you several years of paying your dues, but captains for the big airlines (including freight companies like UPS, FedEx and Amazon) make well in excess of $300,000 per year and fly about 12-15 days per month. Hell of a career if your kid has the desire to do it and an aptitude in the STEM classes.
This post was edited on 2/5/24 at 5:37 pm
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
42183 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 5:36 pm to
Can’t go wrong with Business or Marketing
Posted by offshoretrash
Farmerville, La
Member since Aug 2008
10180 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 5:41 pm to
My son is a straight A student but wants to be a plumber. I want him to get a degree in something but he's dead set against going to college.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
25947 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 5:41 pm to
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My oldest is leaning toward Engineering or Law, maybe both.


I don't think anyone has any idea where the human job market is going.

Law is interesting because outside of politicians it is the only job that has some protection is the Constitution.

Law plus STEM can be lucrative but to get the most benefit out of both you are in a pretty niche field. I have known one engineer turned attorney and a couple of MDs who went to law school and they all did well but it limits your area of practice but that was their intent from the outset of going back to law school.

Law is an odd field when it comes to compensation because it may be the white collar/terminal degree job that varies most in compensation. You have lawyers making a very modest living and you have some with 8 figure comp packages.

Biglaw is the most direct path to high salaries in the field but in general it requires a T14 education and being in the upper part of your class. Craveth scale firms start 1st years at $245,000 and by the 6th or 7th year when they should be hoping/expecting to make the cut for partner they will be making $495k/535k on the 2024 pay scale. The grind of associate life in Biglaw is not for everyone.

Engineering + Law probably works best in the patent law and products liability fields. Even if it is never used specifically the engineering degree would be good to have in one's pocket. The only thing I would point out is they need to take electives outside of STEM that have heavy writing requirements like English and History because law school is almost exclusively exams with long-form answers and even if you know every answer if you can't communicate it clearly and quickly you aren't any better off than the person that doesn't know the answers.

One good thing about law is if you burn out but don't hate law as such you can always move to a small down, hang out your own shingle, poach a good secretary/paralegal from a town or two over, do a little advertising and glad-handing and live the life of a small town general practice attorney. I have a friend who did exactly that and he and his wife love the life, she was a paralegal in the same firm and now they work together.
Posted by MWP
Kingwood, TX via Monroe, LA
Member since Jul 2013
10495 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 5:51 pm to
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I want him to get a degree in something but he's dead set against going to college.



I work in the pipeline construction business and we are about to have a boom that we haven't seen in probably 20 years with a labor pool that I honestly don't think can handle the projects about to come out. With that said, this market will be desperate for welders, operators, and skilled labor. It will probably get to the point that this labor market will be able to set their own price which will be nice for a change because this industry is much better when the contractors dictate the work and not the client, even though they have the checkbook.
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
22704 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 5:51 pm to
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My son is a straight A student but wants to be a plumber. I want him to get a degree in something but he's dead set against going to college.


He can do both. No law against a plumber having a college education
Posted by DamnGood86
Member since Aug 2019
956 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 5:53 pm to
Not engineering or STEM, in my opinion. AI will make human engineers, accountants, stock traders, etc. obsolete.

I would say anything that requires the social intelligence of a human brain, the dexterity of a human body or the ability to analyze without a sensor. Things like sales, positions requiring strong communication skills, trades, song writer, musician, etc.

If you sit behind a computer all day long, you will be out of a job very soon. If you can talk, are a performer or are rock mason; you will be highly valued in the future.

Lastly, politics will continue to be where the real money is.
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
39127 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 6:01 pm to
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The part where demand outpaces supply in this particular area.


Funny how that one part of our economy works…doesn't happen to lawyers, dentists, Drs…well it doesn't happen to anyone…except crazy hard subjects in college like DSP or device engineering…then everyone is fine with it. Its bullshite. Funny how the ‘demand’ never evens out. Pay someone $225k out of college (grad degree) and see how fast that shite corrects itself. Paying those grads $110k, working 5 12 hour shifts a week because you can get boat loads from Asia means you will never have people go into the field. I’ll go do something much easier for the same pay…and did. I’m not sticking around Si valley amongst all the high earners with that bullshite salary.
This post was edited on 2/5/24 at 6:08 pm
Posted by Motownsix
Boise
Member since Oct 2022
1982 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 6:32 pm to
Ours is senior in HS. Applied to 14 schools. Plans to major in Gender Studies.
Posted by Motownsix
Boise
Member since Oct 2022
1982 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 6:36 pm to
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Skilled industry. Plumbing, welding, etc. Make more money, no college debt


Who wants to be digging a trench under a house in 110 degree weather during the summer at 45 years old?
Posted by Catahoula20LSU
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2011
2136 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 6:41 pm to
Engineering, accounting, nursing will always be in demand.
Trades are a good choice now too. I have a son working as a contractor just out of high school making just as much money as an engineer with a four year degree. Plumbing, electrician, HVAC, line crew contractors are all in demand right now. Because of the government trying to make everything electric, (cars, heating, ovens etc), line crew contractors will be in demand for the long haul.
Posted by LeMarteau
Hoover, AL (B.R. native)
Member since Mar 2008
2168 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 6:44 pm to
Trade - in anything.
Posted by TrueBaldPate
BR
Member since Dec 2019
783 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 6:45 pm to
Supply chain in Business school.
Not to hard and come out with many job offers starting $60- 65k
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
24144 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 6:53 pm to
Barber or mortician.

Hair always grows and everyone dies.
Posted by Coach1
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2018
46 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 6:54 pm to
My son is a sophomore in high school and is leaning towards Auburn’s aviation program. I also told him to have a plan B in your back pocket if this doesn’t workout.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
24144 posts
Posted on 2/5/24 at 6:56 pm to
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My son is a straight A student but wants to be a plumber. I want him to get a degree in something but he's dead set against going to college.


He can do both. No law against a plumber having a college education


Exactly. Have him pursue a business or accounting degree.
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