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re: What do you think is the end game to deliberately allowing your country to be invaded
Posted on 3/23/24 at 8:58 am to Mike da Tigah
Posted on 3/23/24 at 8:58 am to Mike da Tigah
Whatever it ultimately is, the Western elite class intends to rule over it in perpetuity and with no chance of that rule ever being challenged.
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Posted on 3/23/24 at 9:00 am to Mike da Tigah
Political domination by the Democrats
Posted on 3/23/24 at 9:04 am to Powerman
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Cheap labor
Correct. Big business wants this so they get it. It also increases demand in the form of more consumers.
Big business benefits from legal immigration under the same framework.
The push for illegals is a push for populace. These people will mass in cities in California, Illinois, and New York. The house of representatives will recalibrate. The electoral College will recalibrate.
Then there is the fallout from the culture clash (see Europe). You create a problem that only the government can solve. And self evident freedoms erode through the public cries for safety and security.
Posted on 3/23/24 at 9:04 am to GurleyGirl
LINK / ran across this article on lewrockwell.com about the insanity in our government now.
Posted on 3/23/24 at 9:07 am to Mike da Tigah
"Fundamental change" to Transnational Progressivism.
Posted on 3/23/24 at 9:11 am to Mike da Tigah
Controlled demolition of the US.
Amnesty.
One party control.
Wreck the economy.
Flood the military with invaders and in the next "crisis" turn them and their guns on the People.
Amnesty.
One party control.
Wreck the economy.
Flood the military with invaders and in the next "crisis" turn them and their guns on the People.
Posted on 3/23/24 at 9:15 am to Mike da Tigah
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What do you think is the end game to deliberately allowing your country to be invaded
Fundamental transformation of America.
Obama said it out loud how many years ago.
Posted on 3/23/24 at 9:40 am to Mike da Tigah
It's multifaceted. They're always jerking each other off over their multifaceted schemes.
Cheap labor, rearranging the classes, eliminating the middle class as much as possible, racial replacement and fragmentation to ensure no one bonds together against them, lower IQ consumers who will spend every dime on dumb shite they don't need and 'revenge' against white western countries.
Cheap labor, rearranging the classes, eliminating the middle class as much as possible, racial replacement and fragmentation to ensure no one bonds together against them, lower IQ consumers who will spend every dime on dumb shite they don't need and 'revenge' against white western countries.
Posted on 3/23/24 at 9:44 am to 4LSU2
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Destruction of the the Republic, destruction of the middle class, destruction of the economy creating a country that is 100% dependent on the federal government.
The thing these people fail to see is that when the productive people quit working things fall apart. They can print money for a while but if the farmers dont plant food there will be mass starvation. (Which is another of their goals).
Dont worry about stocks, gold and silver. You should be buying lead, rice and beans.
Posted on 3/23/24 at 9:56 am to meansonny
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The push for illegals is a push for populace.
I think industry watns workers.
I think politicians want chaos.
With the rush to green energy, automation and AI, jobs are going to be decreasing, not increasing.
In 10 years we will have a massive, uneducated, unskilled, out of work underclass subsisting on welfare.
This is all a desperate attempt to save the economy. Technology has doomed workers, the underclass puts missive pressure on social services.
It will not end well.
Posted on 3/23/24 at 9:58 am to alphaandomega
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You should be buying lead, rice and beans.
By that metric I am the new ruling class.
Posted on 3/23/24 at 10:05 am to RogerTheShrubber
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The push for illegals is a push for populace.
I think industry watns workers.
I don't mind your sentiment.
Is there any evidence of a specific company assisting with this process?
Are the labor unions funding politicians because illegal aliens help their constituency.
If it is true, it is true.
But a lot of time out there, people are pointing at phantoms. Because it sounds nice or fits a logical argument.
Posted on 3/23/24 at 10:09 am to meansonny
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Is there any evidence of a specific company assisting with this process?
Non profits? Yes.
Industry and government use third party middlemen for the dirty work.
ironically industries that typically rely on immigrants have he most shortages, as they begin taking middle class jobs.
Americans dont want to work anymore. I think COVID was the breaking point.
Posted on 3/23/24 at 10:13 am to ScoopAndScore
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Fundamental transformation of America.
It would benefit America more by exporting low skill jobs to Central and South America and increasing their economic situation.
As long as there is little opportunity there, and a lot here, they will keep coming.
Posted on 3/23/24 at 10:15 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Non profits? Yes.
Nonprofits are pushing politicians to keep open borders? And they have influence over these politicians?
Which ones?
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ironically industries that typically rely on immigrants have he most shortages, as they begin taking middle class jobs.
Just because a farmer is happy for the rain does not mean that he had any (not even 1%) influence for the rain clouds to open up.
I won't say you are wrong.
But I absolutely think you are seeing a group who benefits and misassigning influence over the democratic political stance. As I said, you are pointing at phantoms.
Illegal immigration has been around since before a lot of big businesses went out of business. I'm not seeing any company or corporation underneath the mask of this Scooby-Doo episode. I think it is Marxism and socialism attempting their next attempt at knocking down the great capitalist city on a hill.
Posted on 3/23/24 at 10:19 am to meansonny
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Nonprofits are pushing politicians to keep open borders?
Theyre just the vehicle being used by industry and govt.
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Illegal immigration has been around since before a lot of big businesses went out of business. I'm not seeing any company or corporation underneath the mask of this Scooby-Doo episode.
Agricultural, processing and trucking industries wouldnt exist right now without them.
Business is lobbying govt for immigrants. I dont understand why thats hard to understand.
Posted on 3/23/24 at 10:21 am to POTUS2024
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Controlled demolition of the US.
Amnesty.
One party control.
Wreck the economy.
Flood the military with invaders and in the next "crisis" turn them and their guns on the People.
Sounds like Cloward-Piven strategy to me.
"Societal collapse through orchestrated crises.
Overload the bureaucracy with a flood of impossible demands, amassing massive unpayable debt, other methods such as unfettered immigration thus pushing society into crisis and economic collapse by overwhelming the system."
Posted on 3/23/24 at 10:23 am to Mike da Tigah
The government has to shut the middle class down first. After that happens it's a takeover.
This post was edited on 3/23/24 at 10:25 am
Posted on 3/23/24 at 10:27 am to Mike da Tigah
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What do you think is the end game to deliberately allowing your country to be invaded
Make life so untenable for Americans that they cry out for full government control. This control will most likely encompass other global entities.
Posted on 3/23/24 at 10:28 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Agricultural, processing and trucking industries wouldnt exist right now without them.
Again, benefitting from cheap labor does not mean that companies are pushing politicians.
My brother is a flaming liberal. He is verbally "pro illegal immigration" because it is good for businesses in this country.
No business has spoken to him.
No nonprofit has spoken to him.
He is a lemming that argues whatever talking point that supports his team's agenda.
Because he is a flaming liberal. And will gladly bash businesses in his very next breath.
The talking points are just that.
There is actual political motivations attributing to politicians taking active action to avoid action against illegals (even at the harm of voting citizenry). It takes executive orders, state laws, and state mandates to do what the dems have done.
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Business is lobbying govt for immigrants. I dont understand why thats hard to understand.
It is easy to understand.
But it is also easy to state that it lacks evidence.
You have none. It doesn't make you wrong. But you could just as easily being accusatory towards phantoms. That is easy to understand as well. Not everything on the internet is real, even if you can see someone gladly accepting the benefits from the theory.
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