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re: I don't think the racial tension in America is as bad as the media portrays...

Posted on 5/1/24 at 1:01 pm to
Posted by TN Tygah
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Posted on 5/1/24 at 1:01 pm to
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People tend to want to settle and be amongst people who share the same cultural values as them...I'm not sure why we have to see that as a negative


I think the negative part is assuming that different color means you must have different values. I don’t know why we got to this point. They won’t all be the same, but if they’re entirely conflicting you can’t have a unified country that way. We do have to have some common ground and overlap if this is to be a country and not just a facade.

Keep cultural traditions, great, that’s fine, as long as they don’t consist of killing everyone who doesn’t believe in Muhammad or something. At the same time don’t get pissed about people being influenced by it, calling it cultural appropriation when a white guy does rap, and don’t get pissed when a black guy does country (as long as they both do it genuinely and artistically, more like Eminem / Darius Rucker and less like Beyoncé who had no authenticity whatsoever in her stupid pandering country song that went to #1). We gotta stop this “don’t touch our culture” stuff. And it’s mostly a problem in the black community. White people don’t give a shite if a black kid wants to learn all 32 Beethoven sonatas or if Darius Rucker sings a good country song.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Posted on 5/1/24 at 2:22 pm to
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I think the negative part is assuming that different color means you must have different values. I don’t know why we got to this point.



I don't think we do have different values when we are similar in terms of economics. I smoke cigars in a shop near me where the customer base is almost entirely black. Those who smoke on site....loads of white customers buy them and smoke them elsewhere, and the owner is white. Inevitably smoking cigars amongst a bunch of men leads to discussing value related issues. Keep in mind cigar smoking is an expensive habit....not many poor black men are smoking cigars in that shop....in fact, judging by their vehicles and their clothes they are solidly upper middle class. They are as conservative as ANY upper middle class white man I ever knew...more so on many issues.

On the flip side of that coin go to areas where white folks are poor as hell....I grew up as white trash....and the similarities between their values and those of poor black people...are nearly identical.

Age is also more indicative of similarities in values than race. Old poor black folks are pretty damned conservative and share basically the same set of values as poor old white folks.

Is there a difference between poor young black folks and middle class white folks? Without a doubt....is it based on race or economics?
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