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re: 2024 Lexus GX 550 Overtrail

Posted on 5/14/24 at 8:55 am to
Posted by NoBoDawg
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 5/14/24 at 8:55 am to
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bought a TX, it's the most practical vehicle I've ever owned (I have 3 young kids).
congrats on the new mommy-mobile. Dealers have been begging for this thing for years. It looks like a very nice ride, but I’m glad my Wife prefers GX
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 5/14/24 at 9:00 am to
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By that standard, you would call a Maybach “boring.”




This is nothing like the GX interior Come on

It's OK to admit that Toyota/Lexus go boring on their interiors.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
25887 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 9:13 am to
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Historically, most of the GX model sold is the Luxury which starts at $82k before options.


The Luxury+ starts at $81,250 but keep in mind the options list for that model is short and has less than $2k in choices. It isn't like a Porsche where it is easy to add $40k+ off the option list.

I understand the people saying the interior is boring since many interiors have become overly fussy (IMO) but the trend is going to cleaner less visually busy interiors. How long that will last is up to consumers. You are going to see at least a short-term reduction in switch gear as it is very expensive and can now easily be absorbed into the touchscreens. How long that lasts will again be up to consumers and whether they embrace it or balk.
Posted by Dragula
Laguna Seca
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 5/14/24 at 9:15 am to
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congrats on the new mommy-mobile. Dealers have been begging for this thing for years. It looks like a very nice ride, but I’m glad my Wife prefers GX


Eh... The large majority of GX owners are soccer moms these days... My wife included
Posted by Motorboat
At the camp
Member since Oct 2007
22715 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 9:16 am to
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If your wife wants one today, you'll have to pay markup.


OK, but I am on the list and I am paying MSRP tomorrow for mine. Wasn't a knock on you, but the post.
Posted by TCO
Member since Jul 2022
2535 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 9:16 am to
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This is nothing like the GX interior Come on


This is the Maybach GLS600. Other than the pinstripes, it’s not flashy at all. Very minimal and modern.

Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 5/14/24 at 9:19 am to
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it’s not flashy at all. Very minimal and modern.



That has way more flash in it than the GX. It's a pretty ridiculous comparison to try to make, and I think you know it. The lines, patterns, materials, lighting, etc all are way flashier than anything the Lexus has.
Posted by Dragula
Laguna Seca
Member since Jun 2020
4973 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 9:19 am to
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The Luxury+ starts at $81,250 but keep in mind the options list for that model is short and has less than $2k in choices. It isn't like a Porsche where it is easy to add $40k+ off the option list


But did you see the accessories options available?

I'd imagine many Overtrail owners will be taking advantage of the ARB options, roof racks, bumpers, etc. Accessories available, depending on what's checked, can easily bring it up another $10k+.
This post was edited on 5/14/24 at 9:21 am
Posted by Dragula
Laguna Seca
Member since Jun 2020
4973 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 9:26 am to
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OK, but I am on the list and I am paying MSRP tomorrow for mine. Wasn't a knock on you, but the post.


Keep us posted
Posted by TCO
Member since Jul 2022
2535 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 9:35 am to
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That has way more flash in it than the GX. It's a pretty ridiculous comparison to try to make, and I think you know it. The lines, patterns, materials, lighting, etc all are way flashier than anything the Lexus has.


It’s also 200k, so like I said, the OT would consider it plain for what it is.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
12677 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 9:46 am to
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Eh... The large majority of GX owners are soccer moms these days... My wife included

Which is why lease turn in GXs are some of the best deals going.
Posted by madamsquirrel
The Snarlington Estate
Member since Jul 2009
49091 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 9:51 am to
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Which is why lease turn in GXs are some of the best deals going.
this
Posted by NoBoDawg
Member since Feb 2014
1587 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 10:46 am to
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This is nothing like the GX interior Come on It's OK to admit that Toyota/Lexus go boring on their interiors.

Baw, that Merc interior is plain ugly & the most obnoxious thing I’ve ever seen. It’s cheesy & not classy whatsoever. I can only imagine how much it’ll cost to maintain all that digital crap when things start to go wrong…which it will because it’s a Mercedes.
Posted by NoBoDawg
Member since Feb 2014
1587 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 10:54 am to
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This is the Maybach GLS600. Other than the pinstripes, it’s not flashy at all. Very minimal and modern.

Talk about losing their way. This is supposed to be a top-of-the-line S-Class?! Even this “toned-down” version is a huge let down for such a flagship vehicle. Who designed this shat, with the pinstripes?! And those air vents are atrocious here. They need to take note from Tesla interior & how they blend in their vents with the dash.
This post was edited on 5/14/24 at 10:55 am
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
16904 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 10:57 am to
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Check out these threads from the Tundra forums, A LOT of engine failures . Same engine, probably different tune.



It's remarkably common considering that the Tundra isn't that popular relative to other full sized trucks.

They had waste gate issues (electric waste gates are a bad idea IMO), but now they are having main bearing failures that require an entirely new engine - and it's a problem even with the brand new 2024 models. It's extremely rare to see problems like that in a new, low mileage engine that has not been starved of oil. And the issues are hitting the Tundra, Sequioa, and even the new Lexus LX - all of which use the same 3.4L twin turbo motor. There's clearly some kind of manufacturing defect happening. I don't think the engine's bottom end is outsourced to a 3rd party - those are all Toyota parts.

The new GX uses the same motor too, but it's too new to see any issues. I wouldn't rush to buy one just yet unless you are the type that leases them. GX buyers typically keep their cars for a long time, so they will likely have some angry customers soon unless Toyota has quietly fixed these problems in the GX but not in the other models.
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
16904 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 10:58 am to
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Talk about losing their way. This is supposed to be a top-of-the-line S-Class?! Even this “toned-down” version is a huge let down for such a flagship vehicle. Who designed this shat, with the pinstripes?! And those air vents are atrocious here. They need to take note from Tesla interior & how they blend in their vents with the dash.


Mercedes has no appeal to me anymore. They got blingy and stopped focusing on quality. And they seem to be the car of choice for people who aren't rich but want to pretend that they are rich.

The 1980s W126 was an amazing vehicle that represented the best Mercedes could do with almost no regard for price/costs. Every iteration of the S class has gotten worse since then.

Lexus used to know that you didn't have to have the most blingy design. A well engineered vehicle can be considered a luxury in of itself. The original Lexus LS was a great representation of that. But for some reason the Germans in particular lost their way by the mid 1990s. I wouldn't touch a BWM out of warranty right now.

In theory a car like the Lexus GX should fit the original Lexus ethos perfectly. And it might do that had it not been for their choice of engine. The V35A is turning out to be a rare fail for Toyota. They put effort into designing a good motor, but they are clearly having manufacturing issues - and you can see under the hood that they are using a lot of cheaper plastic connections like the Tundra but (surprisingly) not in the Tacoma.
This post was edited on 5/14/24 at 11:08 am
Posted by mmonro3
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2013
3935 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 10:59 am to
The 7th gen S Class screen is terrible. Same screen as a 2018 Avalon. The six gen screen is much better! The 2024 GLS still utilizes it, thankfully.



Posted by NoBoDawg
Member since Feb 2014
1587 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 11:31 am to
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GX buyers typically keep their cars for a long time, so they will likely have some angry customers soon unless Toyota has quietly fixed these problems in the GX but not in the other models.

We’ll prob be in the market next year for new GX or even late model. I love the smaller v8 & simplicity of my Wife’s GX, but appreciate the boxy, yet modern look of the new one. I even like the base 1958 Landcruiser with the cloth interior. There will always be teething issues with new engines & platforms, that’s why I never buy first model year of anything, even Lexus. But I do trust Them to make it right more so than other competitors.
Posted by AirbusDawg
Milton, Ga
Member since Jan 2018
2325 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 11:36 am to
The problems on the Tundra engine are so overblown. Out of about 400,000 trucks sold since 2022, only about 183 have had issues. When the Tundras came out, the same shite happened. People were paying $15-$20k over MSRP. I bought my 2023 Capstone for $15,000 off MSRP back in December.
Posted by TCO
Member since Jul 2022
2535 posts
Posted on 5/14/24 at 12:05 pm to
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Even this “toned-down” version is a huge let down for such a flagship vehicle.


Not sure what else you would want in a luxury vehicle? Strobe lights? Martini maker?

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