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re: MBB SEC preseason predictions
Posted on 5/15/24 at 1:27 pm to Madking
Posted on 5/15/24 at 1:27 pm to Madking
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Translation - “recruiting rankings matter when I need them to for my arguments and they don’t matter when they go against my arguments.”
Rankings aren't 100% predictors of success. But they are not "nothing" either. They are a tool to get a general consensus of how good evaluators think players are.
On that note, (using On3) LSU's transfer class is currently ranked 10th nationally. The HS signing class is currently ranked 15th. In an analysis where volume can often override quality (i.e. a team that signs 8 players avg/slightly above avg players can be ranked higher than a team that signs only 3 really good players), the fact that LSU is ranked in the top 15 in both despite only having a 3 man HS class and 3 man transfer class seems to suggest there are some quality players here.
If you take the name off the front of the jersey an just look at the raw numbers I think every fan would say "that looks pretty good". Now, combine that with LSU returning 4 players who were top 100 recruits coming out of HS and it is really hard to make the argument this team "doesn't have talent". So NOW it is time for McMahon to start doing something with it. No, the expectations aren't SEC champs or Final Four run. But if this team is struggling to get into the NCAA Tournament conversation I don't think you can use the "lack of talent" excuse any longer.
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Posted on 5/15/24 at 1:32 pm to Alt26
Right, it isn’t 100% but it’s a measurable, comparative tool in terms of talent evaluations. Production and success are more situational aspects that depend on different exterior factors for each player.
Posted on 5/15/24 at 2:00 pm to Alt26
quote:They are good evaluations of how good players are coming out of high school. There is a reason the Transfer rankings are based on updated player rankings and they don't use the high school rankings.
Rankings aren't 100% predictors of success. But they are not "nothing" either. They are a tool to get a general consensus of how good evaluators think players are.
quote:Agree. I really hate how "team" rankings jump up if you simply have more players, like Missouri this year. Missouri with 5 4 stars is ranked higher than Arkansas with 3 5 stars. Personally I would prefer a smaller class full of 5 stars.
On that note, (using On3) LSU's transfer class is currently ranked 10th nationally. The HS signing class is currently ranked 15th. In an analysis where volume can often override quality (i.e. a team that signs 8 players avg/slightly above avg players can be ranked higher than a team that signs only 3 really good players), the fact that LSU is ranked in the top 15 in both despite only having a 3 man HS class and 3 man transfer class seems to suggest there are some quality players here.
quote:Now here you go doing what Madking does. We have Reed and Ward, then I guess you are counting Chest (97th ranked on 247 with zero college experience) and Collins in that "top 100 recruit" list?
Now, combine that with LSU returning 4 players who were top 100 recruits coming out of HS and it is really hard to make the argument this team "doesn't have talent".
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