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re: US CPI comes in "hotter than expected"

Posted on 5/15/24 at 7:10 pm to
Posted by slackster
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Posted on 5/15/24 at 7:10 pm to
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By whom? The average person can tell you this shite is flaming.


The average person doesn’t understand rate of change one bit.

Saying prices are at all time highs today is true. They were at all time highs under Trump too. And Obama before him.

The rate of change is what the Fed targets, and that has objectively gotten much better in the past two years.
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Posted on 5/15/24 at 7:18 pm to
So many people think inflation going down means prices are falling
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Posted on 5/16/24 at 7:28 am to
Dup
This post was edited on 5/16/24 at 7:32 am
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Posted on 5/16/24 at 7:33 am to
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They removed a specific category of size can of coffee, that isn't widely available anymore.


Out with the family size, in with the sharing size.
Posted by meansonny
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Posted on 5/16/24 at 8:09 am to
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The rate of change is what the Fed targets, and that has objectively gotten much better in the past two years.


Objectively better than 9% on an ever changing basket of goods?

Sure. That's objective, I guess.
Posted by KWL85
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Posted on 5/16/24 at 8:18 am to
Add the consumer into that mix as well. Consumers are still deeply in debt and constantly creating more while draining their savings, all while real wages are falling behind.
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Consumer debt is trending the wrong way, but real wages has been holding up. I assume we are talking this year, not 2 years ago.
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 5/16/24 at 11:52 am to
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but real wages has been holding up


Not this year.

BLS for April 2024

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Real average hourly earnings for all employees decreased 0.2 percent from March to April, seasonally adjusted, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics reported today.


There's the mention that it's actually up .5% YoY, but the visualization tells a more clear story: real wages topped out in January and then dropped almost every month thus far this year (it hasn't risen any month thus far this year).
This post was edited on 5/16/24 at 11:53 am
Posted by Big Scrub TX
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Posted on 5/16/24 at 12:16 pm to
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Objectively better than 9% on an ever changing basket of goods?
Yes. The current inflation rate is vastly lower than 9%.
This post was edited on 5/16/24 at 6:07 pm
Posted by molsusports
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Posted on 5/16/24 at 12:17 pm to
I haven't read through the wage data but, if the reports of employers cutting hours are accurate, then it would be surprising if employee earnings weren't reduced.
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 5/16/24 at 2:43 pm to
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I haven't read through the wage data but, if the reports of employers cutting hours are accurate, then it would be surprising if employee earnings weren't reduced.


MoM:
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Real average weekly earnings decreased 0.4 percent over the month due to the change in real average hourly earnings combined with a 0.3-percent decrease in the average workweek.


YoY:
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Real average hourly earnings increased 0.5 percent, seasonally adjusted, from April 2023 to April 2024. The change in real average hourly earnings combined with no change in the average workweek resulted in a 0.5-percent increase in real average weekly earnings over this period.


Again, the caveat here with YoY is that all the increase happened in 2023. There's been absolutely no increase thus far for 2024.
This post was edited on 5/16/24 at 2:44 pm
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