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re: Chief's Harrison Butker delivers an unforgettable commencement address
Posted on 5/15/24 at 8:09 pm to Liberator
Posted on 5/15/24 at 8:09 pm to Liberator
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let them take it up with The Almighty.
Catholics believe in plenty of things nowhere to be found in scripture. I answer to god, not to the papacy
This post was edited on 5/15/24 at 8:13 pm
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Posted on 5/15/24 at 8:12 pm to Liberator
FWIW I got to know some actual Benedictine monks a while back and they would not be down with this speech. They're the most mellow, nonjudgmental people I've ever been around.
Posted on 5/15/24 at 8:13 pm to lsufball19
quote:The current pope is a communist tranny loving clown
Catholics believe in plenty of things nowhere to be found in scripture. I answer to god, not to the papacy
Posted on 5/15/24 at 8:17 pm to TheWalrus
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These aren’t “conservative” values, these are “religious zealot” values.
Really?
So supporting traditional family values and role of man and wife, respect of God and Life...AND rejection of contemporary gutter-culture, hooking-up, porn, and queerdom is "religious zealotry"?
Sign me up in Harrison Butker's world. (You and his other critics can have our current devolving Sodom & Gommorah demon-world.)
Posted on 5/15/24 at 8:18 pm to lsufball19
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Catholics believe in plenty of things nowhere to be found in scripture.
I answer to god, not to the papacy
Amen brutha.
Posted on 5/15/24 at 8:18 pm to Liberator
This is against God's Will. What we "want," is not necessarily what we should receive. Our passions, and our desires, should not be the sole driver of outcomes, and we should not go against God's will just to get the thing we want.
The ends do not justify the means. That's a very Catholic belief. And unfortunately, that affects things that seem "good," like IVF or surrogacy. Both are driven by disordered desires... Christians in general, are typically misled by desire, by "happiness," by pleasure and earthly needs. That is the struggle of being Christian, and really living it.
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Many years ago I was asked by my Catholic boss if IVF was the right thing. Now it makes sense. What an a-hole.
I can judge a Catholic just as fast as they can judge me.
The ends do not justify the means. That's a very Catholic belief. And unfortunately, that affects things that seem "good," like IVF or surrogacy. Both are driven by disordered desires... Christians in general, are typically misled by desire, by "happiness," by pleasure and earthly needs. That is the struggle of being Christian, and really living it.
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Many years ago I was asked by my Catholic boss if IVF was the right thing. Now it makes sense. What an a-hole.
I can judge a Catholic just as fast as they can judge me.
Posted on 5/15/24 at 8:21 pm to Jim Rockford
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FWIW I got to know some actual Benedictine monks a while back and they would not be down with this speech. They're the most mellow, nonjudgmental people I've ever been around.
That I believe. Playing it safe is NOT what God would want from any clergy. No souls get saved that way.
"Non-Judgmentalism" aka moral relativism is actually a big problem. People NEED to know Right from Wrong; Good from Evil; Godly from Sinning.
Posted on 5/15/24 at 8:26 pm to Freauxzen
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This is against God's Will. What we "want," is not necessarily what we should receive. Our passions, and our desires, should not be the sole driver of outcomes, and we should not go against God's will just to get the thing we want.
Imagine actually thinking this lol
Posted on 5/15/24 at 8:26 pm to lsufan112001
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Many years ago I was asked by my Catholic boss if IVF was the right thing. Now it makes sense. What an a-hole.
I can judge a Catholic just as fast as they can judge me.
Catholicism like various sects of so-called "Protestantism" cab run the gamut of being true Christian mentors.
I suppose it was possible he actually was sincere in his IVF question toward you with respect to Scripture, not holding to any bias. But only you know the level of intent, context and vibe.
Posted on 5/15/24 at 8:28 pm to lsupride87
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The current pope is a communist tranny loving clown
Maybe...
But you also happen to believe ALL Christians are clowns and worse. I wouldn't be so condescending given your odd political and social positions.
Posted on 5/15/24 at 8:31 pm to Jcorye1
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I mean he sounds full holly roller so he may actually punt on it. The hardcore religious types are just something I don't understand.
Interesting.
What constitutes "FULL Holy Roller"?
What is a "hardcore religious type"?
(Are you a Pagan or Atheist?)
Posted on 5/15/24 at 8:32 pm to Liberator
quote:Actually I don’t. I even said the opposite. I think most Christians and Catholics would disagree with Butker and call him an a-hole
But you also happen to believe ALL Christians are clowns and worse.
Posted on 5/15/24 at 8:37 pm to lsupride87
I'm chuckling at all the Chiefs fans who are now "quitting on the team" after they literally employed wife beaters the last 5 years.
Posted on 5/15/24 at 8:50 pm to SDVTiger
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Look at the "men" in this thread offended by this
I concur. Disappointing to see so many posters either not embracing Butker's much needed speech OR their blatant anti-Christian hate.
My impression of Butker: THAT is a man, saying what a real leader of men says to his brothers and sisters -- caring about and mentoring them like they are family. ("Don't follow this gutter Sodom & Gommorrah culture; FOLLOW GOD!")
Total respect for Harrison Butker.
(ZERO respect for his detractors here.)
Posted on 5/15/24 at 8:51 pm to Liberator
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My impression of Butker: THAT is a man, saying what a real leader of men says to his brothers and sisters -- caring about and mentoring them like they are family.
Posted on 5/15/24 at 8:54 pm to lsupride87
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But you also happen to believe ALL Christians are clowns and worse.
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Actually I don’t. I even said the opposite. I think most Christians and Catholics would disagree with Butker and call him an a-hole
Your above anti-Christian assessment is pure delusion.
Posted on 5/15/24 at 8:57 pm to Liberator
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What constitutes "FULL Holy Roller"?
Anti IVF is pretty far up there.
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What is a "hardcore religious type"?
For this country? Being anti IVF, saying God is speaking through you, and other items.
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(Are you a Pagan or Atheist?)
Episcopalian, though relatively lapsed.
Posted on 5/15/24 at 8:58 pm to Jcorye1
quote:Nice my brother in Christ, Diet Catholic or Catholic Light.
Episcopalian
Posted on 5/15/24 at 9:08 pm to lsupride87
Anything that pisses off leftists is good in my book.
Posted on 5/15/24 at 9:10 pm to Ronaldo Burgundiaz
quote:The killing of school children pisses off liberals
Anything that pisses off leftists is good in my book.
So does the thought of an innocent person burning alive in a building
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