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re: Dabo: “We just signed a whole class of guys transferring from high school”
Posted on 5/16/24 at 4:31 pm to Dairy Sanders
Posted on 5/16/24 at 4:31 pm to Dairy Sanders
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Outside of Kirby, there is no coach more loved by the fans of their school than Dabo. They know who they really are which is exactly why winning those titles with Newspring money got him a job for life. Pretty much the only thing that could get him shown the door is being convicted of a serious crime or playing hide the flesh pickle with the wrong guy’s wife.
Watch how quickly they turn on him if he doesn’t have a good season this year. Being the only coach refusing to participate in the transfer portal is going to come back quick if they don’t see quick success. Past trophies don’t mean much if your head coach is the one guy in the country unwilling to adapt
This post was edited on 5/16/24 at 4:32 pm
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Posted on 5/16/24 at 6:44 pm to litenin
quote:When Tommy Bowden was fired Tommy personally told the AD (Terry Don Phillips) to make Dabo, a WR coach, the interim coach.
I know he gave Dabo the interim role at Clemson (and later permanent job) because he liked how Dabo interacted with his position players he coached.
Posted on 5/16/24 at 7:45 pm to RunningJacket
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Some of you are funny. Clemson doesn’t have UGA depth? What did UGA win last year? How about Bama? These southern schools got pushed around by freakin Michigan.
Posted on 5/16/24 at 8:08 pm to CarolinaGamecock99
I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again:
Dabo is the Michael Scott of College Football.
I mean that quote sounds like it was taken directly from a script.
Dabo is the Michael Scott of College Football.
I mean that quote sounds like it was taken directly from a script.
Posted on 5/17/24 at 9:14 am to CarolinaGamecock99
He’s probably one of the few that doesn’t tamper
This post was edited on 5/17/24 at 9:15 am
Posted on 5/17/24 at 9:18 am to Grit-Eating Shin
This website bitches at Deion for transferring everyone and then bitches at dabo for not getting transfers. Crazy
Posted on 5/17/24 at 9:33 am to justaniceguy
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This website bitches at Deion for transferring everyone and then bitches at dabo for not getting transfers. Craz
When you realize that Louisiana is consistently rated/ranked as the worst state to live in, it really puts the negative attitudes on this site into perspective.
This post was edited on 5/17/24 at 9:34 am
Posted on 5/17/24 at 11:37 am to justaniceguy
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This website bitches at Deion for transferring everyone and then bitches at dabo for not getting transfers. Crazy
Makes sense. Both are examples of extremes on either side
This post was edited on 5/17/24 at 11:38 am
Posted on 5/17/24 at 11:53 am to Fun Bunch
quote:this guy will be on the hot seat if Clemson doesn't win the ACC???
If Clemson doesn't win the ACC this year, the hotseat has to be firmly scorching
This post was edited on 5/17/24 at 11:54 am
Posted on 5/17/24 at 12:06 pm to Chicken
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this guy will be on the hot seat if Clemson doesn't win the ACC???
Yeah because he got Clemson fans used to being elite and now they’re no longer so
Posted on 5/17/24 at 12:11 pm to Chicken
He will be on the hot seat because he’s the one coach in the country refusing to adapt. If he was using the portal and had another 9-4 season it wouldn’t be near as bad.
Clemson fans will start to question why keep around a coach that is adamant about not using the portal since it’s clearly not working
Clemson fans will start to question why keep around a coach that is adamant about not using the portal since it’s clearly not working
This post was edited on 5/17/24 at 12:13 pm
Posted on 5/17/24 at 12:18 pm to tigeroarz1
The article I read a few years ago said Terry Don used to watch practices often at Clemson during Bowden’s era. Terry Don played at Arkansas with a close family friend.
Not claiming article was 100% accurate. Perhaps both Tommy and Terry Don wanted credit after Dabo did so well.
Not claiming article was 100% accurate. Perhaps both Tommy and Terry Don wanted credit after Dabo did so well.
Posted on 5/18/24 at 12:13 am to litenin
Terry Don deserves credit for Dabo.
When Phillips promoted Dabo to interim, he encouraged him to treat the job as if it were his for the long haul and that he would give him a legitimate shot at it. Phillips was willing to hire him originally (at about 40 years old with nothing but position coach experience for mostly mediocre teams) and then stick with him through some early struggles.
Phillips was impressed with Dabo’s energy, charisma, and recruiting prowess. Obviously he was right that Dabo had the qualities of a great HC.
Unless the bottom falls out, Dabo will be at Clemson as long as he wants. He’s done too much to elevate the program. I do, however, believe NIL and the TP have changed the ecosystem enough that he is no longer capable of a run comparable to 2015-2020 unless he adapts.
He may be right that “most” portal players aren’t Clemson caliber - but that still leaves “some,” right? At least to fill depth? He needs to get those guys. And he needs to win some of the “wars” (as he called it) for the star transfers too.
He also needs to accept that the idealized student-athlete who prioritizes education and personal growth through the college experience is essentially dead due to the obscene emphasis on money and winning created by fans, TV networks, administrators, the NFL, and coaches. And considering his ridiculous $100,000,000 contract to coach “amateur football,” he is to blame for it too. You don’t get paid money like that for life coaching and graduating 85 kids. Thousands of educators making less than $100,000 can do that with an army of tutors and top notch facilities at their disposal. Hell, most college kids (the kind who actually should be at a college instead of just football players mostly there to play football) can figure it all out with minimal help from advisors, etc.
If Dabo’s going to sign the big contracts (50-100+ times what a typical college educator makes), he needs to prioritize winning to the fullest extent of the rules - whether he likes it or not - because that’s what he is paid all that money to do.
When Phillips promoted Dabo to interim, he encouraged him to treat the job as if it were his for the long haul and that he would give him a legitimate shot at it. Phillips was willing to hire him originally (at about 40 years old with nothing but position coach experience for mostly mediocre teams) and then stick with him through some early struggles.
Phillips was impressed with Dabo’s energy, charisma, and recruiting prowess. Obviously he was right that Dabo had the qualities of a great HC.
Unless the bottom falls out, Dabo will be at Clemson as long as he wants. He’s done too much to elevate the program. I do, however, believe NIL and the TP have changed the ecosystem enough that he is no longer capable of a run comparable to 2015-2020 unless he adapts.
He may be right that “most” portal players aren’t Clemson caliber - but that still leaves “some,” right? At least to fill depth? He needs to get those guys. And he needs to win some of the “wars” (as he called it) for the star transfers too.
He also needs to accept that the idealized student-athlete who prioritizes education and personal growth through the college experience is essentially dead due to the obscene emphasis on money and winning created by fans, TV networks, administrators, the NFL, and coaches. And considering his ridiculous $100,000,000 contract to coach “amateur football,” he is to blame for it too. You don’t get paid money like that for life coaching and graduating 85 kids. Thousands of educators making less than $100,000 can do that with an army of tutors and top notch facilities at their disposal. Hell, most college kids (the kind who actually should be at a college instead of just football players mostly there to play football) can figure it all out with minimal help from advisors, etc.
If Dabo’s going to sign the big contracts (50-100+ times what a typical college educator makes), he needs to prioritize winning to the fullest extent of the rules - whether he likes it or not - because that’s what he is paid all that money to do.
This post was edited on 5/18/24 at 12:15 am
Posted on 5/18/24 at 5:02 am to Tifway419
Stetson Bennett was a transfer
Posted on 5/18/24 at 5:59 am to justaniceguy
Well it’s a large site with a lot of posters so it’s going to have pretty much every opinion under the sun. This isn’t some new revelation and this place isn’t some echo chamber.
Posted on 5/18/24 at 7:16 am to Ed Osteen
They are averaging 10 wins a season since the portal came about which is two more a year than they are accustomed to.
They know they have no shot at being a perennial top 5 team again so as long as Dabo keeps them in that 8-10 win range with a playoff appearance every other year or so, he’ll be there for life.
They aren’t LSU where they go through a coach every 5 seasons or so just because.
They know they have no shot at being a perennial top 5 team again so as long as Dabo keeps them in that 8-10 win range with a playoff appearance every other year or so, he’ll be there for life.
They aren’t LSU where they go through a coach every 5 seasons or so just because.
Posted on 5/18/24 at 9:41 am to Dairy Sanders
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They know they have no shot at being a perennial top 5 team again
They just were not that long ago
Posted on 5/18/24 at 11:26 am to chalmetteowl
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They just were not that long ago
Deshaun and Trevor have that effect.
Without those 2 at the helm dabo is basically a lesser version of mark richt in a shittier conference.
Posted on 5/18/24 at 4:32 pm to CarolinaGamecock99
The whole players should get paid thing is garbage. I hope he does well.
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