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re: Another Federal Circuit Court Finds Convicted Felons Can Own Guns After Discharge
Posted on 5/16/24 at 10:23 am to AubieinNC2009
Posted on 5/16/24 at 10:23 am to AubieinNC2009
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Why the current laws (like S.O. Registry laws) do nothing to increase security and safety. Those cons that want a gun are going to have one no matter what the law says.
This gets at the heart of why it's unlikely that background checks will ever be eliminated. Too many people think the answer to laws that don't work is more laws that don't work.
I mean frick, we have self-professed Second Amendment supporters here who champion background checks, red flag laws, and letting an agency create law.
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Posted on 5/16/24 at 10:26 am to 4cubbies
This is wrong too. They should get both back.
Posted on 5/16/24 at 10:33 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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I mean frick, we have self-professed Second Amendment supporters here who champion background checks, red flag laws, and letting an agency create law.
And they're idiots
Posted on 5/16/24 at 10:40 am to Midget Death Squad
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Are we talking violent crimes? If so then no right to weapons ever. White collar? We can talk
Second Amendment seems pretty clear to me.
Sorry you want to modify things to meet your sensibilities.
Posted on 5/16/24 at 10:42 am to FATBOY TIGER
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And they're idiots
Indeed they are.
Posted on 5/16/24 at 10:57 am to Midget Death Squad
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Are we talking violent crimes? If so then no right to weapons ever. White collar? We can talk
Explain yourself.
Why does someone who drives drunk be allowed to continue driving? Own a car? Etc?
Why does someone who commits fraud be allowed to even have a bank account? A credit card?
You’re a simpleton who is parroting deep state talking points.
The 2nd Amendment SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED….no qualifiers.
Posted on 5/16/24 at 10:57 am to BuckyCheese
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Second Amendment seems pretty clear to me.
Sorry you want to modify things to meet your sensibilities.
You need to freshen up your understanding of social contracts. Violations of them empowers society and government to remove access to civil and natural rights. Serving time does not grant felons unconditional rights upon release. I'd like you to show me in the 2nd amendment or elsewhere in the bill of rights where it does. If you do then I reserve the right to change my mind. Until then take your stupid sarcasm and your own sensibilities elsewhere.
Posted on 5/16/24 at 11:03 am to Midget Death Squad
The Constitution is NOT a social contract.
It sets out what rights given to man by GOD should not be taken away by MAN.
The Constitution was gutted post-War of Northern Aggression and sadly we are now having these conversations.
Those in control never want to lose control…hence 2A restrictions and other bogus restrictions on Americans convicted of felonies/misd. domestic violence:
All kabuki theater.
It sets out what rights given to man by GOD should not be taken away by MAN.
The Constitution was gutted post-War of Northern Aggression and sadly we are now having these conversations.
Those in control never want to lose control…hence 2A restrictions and other bogus restrictions on Americans convicted of felonies/misd. domestic violence:
All kabuki theater.
Posted on 5/16/24 at 11:09 am to Midget Death Squad
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I'd like you to show me in the 2nd amendment...
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
Posted on 5/16/24 at 11:09 am to ValhallaAwaits
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Explain yourself.
A person who commits a violent crime has displayed the will to injure other law abiding citizens. They have both proven to not be responsible to legally have a firearm just as they have broken the social contract.
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Why does someone who drives drunk be allowed to continue driving? Own a car? Etc?
After multiple infractions they aren't
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Why does someone who commits fraud be allowed to even have a bank account? A credit card?
They do with shitty credit and high interest rates, thus penalties for their past crimes. The real question is should they be allowed to manage a hedge fund, not have a bank account.
Should a pharmacist who gets busted selling oxy on the side be allowed to be a pharmacist upon release from jail?
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The 2nd Amendment SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED….no qualifiers.
See my above post. We are not speaking of law abiding citizens protected by the Constitution. We are speaking of criminals who have broken the social contract, thus their admittance back into said contract is not unconditional. If you want to argue that they OUGHT to be, then that is a fair argument to be had. If you are saying they automatically are, then you are wrong. The moment anyone is put in jail is the moment that person's rights are removed. Isn't freedom guaranteed by the Bill of Rights? How are we able to imprison them?
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You’re a simpleton who is parroting deep state talking points.
Oh how did I miss this juicy one.
Is this the best you got?This post was edited on 5/16/24 at 11:17 am
Posted on 5/16/24 at 11:10 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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I'd like you to show me in the 2nd amendment...
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
Typical cuckeye. Cherry pick one part of a statement, respond to that while completely ignoring the qualifying portion of that statement that followed.
Posted on 5/16/24 at 11:11 am to ValhallaAwaits
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post-War of Northern Aggression
Posted on 5/16/24 at 11:12 am to Midget Death Squad
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Typical cuckeye. Cherry pick one part of a statement, respond to that while completely ignoring the qualifying portion of that statement that followed.
It's the relevant part, sport. I'm ensuring that we're clear on the point being made. Don't be a bitch about it.
Posted on 5/16/24 at 11:13 am to ValhallaAwaits
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The Constitution is NOT a social contract.
Yes it is. Are you saying that the Constitution extends its protection to illegal aliens?
Posted on 5/16/24 at 11:18 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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It's the relevant part, sport. I'm ensuring that we're clear on the point being made. Don't be a bitch about it.
Cuckeye, the relevant part is to whom does the second amendment protections extend to. Are you saying prisoners in jail have the right to bear arms? They are protected by the second amendment, because the only relevant part is...
Posted on 5/16/24 at 11:19 am to Midget Death Squad
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Are you saying that the Constitution extends its protection to illegal aliens?
Hold up...are you saying that it doesn't?
Posted on 5/16/24 at 11:20 am to DisplacedBuckeye
Don't set the hook to soon, let him swallow it.
Posted on 5/16/24 at 11:21 am to DisplacedBuckeye
Correct. The constitution is to protect citizens.
Posted on 5/16/24 at 11:22 am to Midget Death Squad
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Are you saying prisoners in jail have the right to bear arms?
What an idiotic question.
You ought to spend some time working this out. Then, when you've figured out why it's fricking retarded, come back and explain it so we can make sure you get it.
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