re: Any baw took drastic measures to lose that gut

That's the thing, having a high stress job. Balancing that with being present for the wife and kids, it doesn't leave much time for being an exercise fiend. Waking up when it's dark to work out and going to bed before the nine o'clock news isn't living to me. Also I can't stand running or lifting, but I do like riding my bike which I've found is all I need, if I can find time for it.

Trying to cut back on alcohol is the thing. I can be good for 3 to 4 days, and see immediate results, but then it's back to the bad habits, which are related to the high stress job. If I didn't have to work I would have no problems.