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No wonder we are still mesmerized by the brilliance of POTUS Trump - It's 8D GO he plays
Posted on 5/16/24 at 11:47 am
Posted on 5/16/24 at 11:47 am
In 1988 he was telling it like it is at an IQ rate brilliantly spoken to a dumbed down audience that would leave Ross Perot SPEECHLESS!
Speechless Is How He Left Them
"Bring it," he says!!
Speechless Is How He Left Them
"Bring it," he says!!
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Posted on 5/16/24 at 11:55 am to Timeoday
I’m not following you here.
I watched the beginning of it but I couldn’t continue because I hate the editorialized clip style stuff on YouTube.
He’s saying that with the policies of the 80s Kuwait and Japan were beating the hell out of us.
Presumably we kept those policies that were causing us to get “beat” yet where are Kuwait and Japan now compared to the US? Clearly they didn’t “beat the hell out of us”
Doesn’t that go against his argument that his way was the right way?
I will say that it is remarkable that his rhetoric hasn’t changed in 40 years only the players have been swapped out
I watched the beginning of it but I couldn’t continue because I hate the editorialized clip style stuff on YouTube.
He’s saying that with the policies of the 80s Kuwait and Japan were beating the hell out of us.
Presumably we kept those policies that were causing us to get “beat” yet where are Kuwait and Japan now compared to the US? Clearly they didn’t “beat the hell out of us”
Doesn’t that go against his argument that his way was the right way?
I will say that it is remarkable that his rhetoric hasn’t changed in 40 years only the players have been swapped out
This post was edited on 5/16/24 at 11:56 am
Posted on 5/16/24 at 12:06 pm to Adam Banks
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I’m not following you here.
He was tired then of the US getting ripped off. Imagine how he feels now?
POTUS Trump predicted Biden in 1980
Posted on 5/16/24 at 12:14 pm to Timeoday
Yet the countries he listed have been in decline internationally while we have remained the same in standing.
So he’s saying in 88 at the height of Reaganomics, with the Berlin Wall about to fall, the Soviet Union about to fall that we were getting our tails whipped by countries that largely don’t influence the international sphere at all 40 years later.
Yet with that context you don’t see how that might make the same rhetoric sound less genuine today?
So he’s saying in 88 at the height of Reaganomics, with the Berlin Wall about to fall, the Soviet Union about to fall that we were getting our tails whipped by countries that largely don’t influence the international sphere at all 40 years later.
Yet with that context you don’t see how that might make the same rhetoric sound less genuine today?
This post was edited on 5/16/24 at 12:15 pm
Posted on 5/16/24 at 12:25 pm to Adam Banks
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Yet the countries he listed have been in decline internationally while we have remained the same in standing.
UMMMMMM KKKKKKKKKK
Posted on 5/16/24 at 12:32 pm to Timeoday
And yet we still have the largest economy in the world, the largest military in the world. We have the most consistent largest influence on the world in the last 40 years since he first started on his getting the hell beat out of us line.
Convenient you completely ignored every other part of the post as well.
He’s giving his 2016 and 2024 stump speech on Oprah when the US was doing great and continued to do great.
Listen I won’t argue that trump is better than Biden. That’s without question.
I just don’t get how this video is in any way impressive and in fact it makes his current stump speeches less effective given its showing that he has nothing new in 40 years
Convenient you completely ignored every other part of the post as well.
He’s giving his 2016 and 2024 stump speech on Oprah when the US was doing great and continued to do great.
Listen I won’t argue that trump is better than Biden. That’s without question.
I just don’t get how this video is in any way impressive and in fact it makes his current stump speeches less effective given its showing that he has nothing new in 40 years
This post was edited on 5/16/24 at 12:33 pm
Posted on 5/16/24 at 12:37 pm to Adam Banks
Considering you agree those countries don’t sway much about anything now they still managed to do harm to us now. The players may have changed but the problem still persists
Posted on 5/16/24 at 12:40 pm to Adam Banks
Bro. 8D, bro. 8 effing D.
You just don’t understand.
You just don’t understand.
Posted on 5/16/24 at 12:59 pm to Nosevens
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Considering you agree those countries don’t sway much about anything now they still managed to do harm to us now. The players may have changed but the problem still persists
I think it’s kinda makes the argument for the opposite.
You are focusing on short term outcomes rather than looking at the long term goals.
The economy continued to be the strongest in the world and rather than focus on short term inconveniences (oil tarrifs specifically listed by Trump in 88, market manipulation and tarrifs by Japan) instead we focused on long term trade and we remained the most powerful country in the world.
He was calling for a 25% payment by Kuwait to us for oil
opec would have gone nuts You could make the argument that this video proves to stop focusing on short term battles because ultimately the long term will prove fruitful.
This post was edited on 5/16/24 at 1:03 pm
Posted on 5/16/24 at 1:05 pm to roadGator
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Bro. 8D, bro. 8 effing D. You just don’t understand.
Yeah I’m still waiting on an intelligent response on how the US was getting the “hell beat out of us” in 88 by Japan and Kuwait.
We have the benefit of hindsight and yet to praise dear leader they refuse to acknowledge the US’ standing from 89-the 90s. Meanwhile from 91-2003 japans economy only grew by 1%.
This post was edited on 5/16/24 at 1:08 pm
Posted on 5/16/24 at 7:24 pm to Adam Banks
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The economy continued to be the strongest in the world and rather than focus on short term inconveniences (oil tarrifs specifically listed by Trump in 88, market manipulation and tarrifs by Japan) instead we focused on long term trade and we remained the most powerful country in the world.
Your desperation in this thread to spin what Trump said to try to make him wrong is not convincing, but it is amusing.
Your attempt to make us believe that the reason the US is stronger than Kuwait and Japan is based on our "long term trade" instead of a myriad of factors is laughable. Having a stronger economy isn't proof that letting ourselves get screwed over in trade is a positive, nor is it reason to overlook getting screwed in trade.
Can you really say we have a stronger economy than Japan when we are 30 trillion in debt? Which brings us to another of Trump's points you glossed over. These countries are allowed to trade freely because of our military. Why shouldn't Kuwait pay us a fee if they benefit from our protection? Consider it a processing fee instead of a tariff. Now, you can keep your principles while still using common sense.
It's also clear that Trump has had the same opinion for 40 years. That blows your whole "Trump has no principles and is just telling people what they want to hear" narrative out of the water.
Posted on 5/16/24 at 8:18 pm to TenWheelsForJesus
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It's also clear that Trump has had the same opinion for 40 years.
Exactly. He knew what needed to be done, even then. It is quite fascinating to see remarkable change occur rapidly when going against the establishment or status quo.
So many others worldwide are picking up his model and making tremendous differences quickly in their countries. When it comes to the human model, the more things change, the more things stay the same.
Posted on 5/16/24 at 8:29 pm to Adam Banks
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I will say that it is remarkable that his rhetoric hasn’t changed in 40 years only the players have been swapped out
It’s funny how things change and many remain the same. He was right then and he is right now. Some of the names have changed but the game remains the same. Sorry that does not fit your narrative.
Posted on 5/16/24 at 8:45 pm to TenWheelsForJesus
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Your desperation in this thread to spin what Trump said to try to make him wrong is not convincing, but it is amusing.
Please tell me what I am spinning.
I’m quoting him.
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Can you really say we have a stronger economy than Japan when we are 30 trillion in debt?
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As of December 2023, Japan's debt-to-GDP ratio is 263% which is the highest of any developed nation. This is due to the country's national debt, which is estimated to be around $9.2 trillion, or 263% of GDP, as of March 2023. This debt has remained above 100% of Japan's GDP for two decades.
Sorry to rain on your America hating parade
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These countries are allowed to trade freely because of our military. Why shouldn't Kuwait pay us a fee if they benefit from our protection?
So you want to push them into further alliance with Iran and Russia.
Smart move.
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It's also clear that Trump has had the same opinion for 40 years
I remarked in my first post that his rhetoric was the same even 40 years ago. My point is that makes his current arguments less effective particularly given context of what happened to each of the three countries in just a few years after these comments.
This post was edited on 5/16/24 at 8:53 pm
Posted on 5/16/24 at 8:48 pm to Warboo
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He was right then and he is right now.
Was he?
Japan was crushing us in 1988?
I think hindsight clearly shows that was false.
He’s the equivalent of an armchair qb yelling to fire the coach because his team gave up a first quarter touchdown
Posted on 5/16/24 at 8:56 pm to Adam Banks
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the same rhetoric sound less genuine today?
Posted on 5/16/24 at 9:10 pm to Adam Banks
Again, at the time our trade deficit was bad with Japan. Now it is other countries. Some things change (countries). Some remain the same (trade deficits). It is pretty simple Adam.
Posted on 5/16/24 at 9:23 pm to Warboo
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Again, at the time our trade deficit was bad with Japan.
And their booming economy went into the tank for 40 years
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Now it is other countries. Some things change (countries). Some remain the same (trade deficits).
Maybe the fallacy is believing that a trade deficit has bearing on the long term economic health of the nation. The us and the Japanese economy went in different directions almost immediately after this clip. And it’s NOT because we did what Trump advocated for
He was wrong 40 years ago but now he’s right 40 years later saying the same thing about a different country?
Many of the same issues that Japan dealt with are present for China.
This post was edited on 5/16/24 at 9:25 pm
Posted on 5/16/24 at 9:34 pm to Adam Banks
Maybe the fallacy is believing that a trade deficit has bearing on the long term economic health of the nation. The us and the Japanese economy went in different directions almost immediately after this clip. And it’s NOT because we did what Trump advocated for He was wrong 40 years ago but now he’s right 40 years later saying the same thing about a different country? Many of the same issues that Japan dealt with are present for China.
Thank god you have no part in our foreign policy. Well I am wondering if you do because Biden and bunch have the same mentality as you do. Why did the Japanese and us economy go in different directions at that time (it was not trump)? I’ll give you a guess.
Thank god you have no part in our foreign policy. Well I am wondering if you do because Biden and bunch have the same mentality as you do. Why did the Japanese and us economy go in different directions at that time (it was not trump)? I’ll give you a guess.
Posted on 5/16/24 at 9:57 pm to Warboo
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Why did the Japanese and us economy go in different directions at that time
Well the US intentionally devalued its currency for one (which y’all hate). This was in order to avoid protectionism (which is what y’all love) the Japanese real estate bubble popped and now they have an aging predominately male population. The us trade deficit to Europe improved but the US to Japan deficit remained.
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