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Fresh off the birth of his son Scottie shoots an opening rd 67

Posted on 5/16/24 at 8:52 pm
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/16/24 at 8:52 pm
And his odds to win the tournament go down

Went from +450 to +500 on my book. That’s insane. I wish I could look it up. I’d venture to say that could possibly be a first
Posted by MC5601
Tyler, Texas
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 5/16/24 at 9:18 pm to
He’s 5 back on a course that’s going to yield 20 under or better to win. Of course his odds went up
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96005 posts
Posted on 5/16/24 at 9:24 pm to
Yes I understand he is 5 back

But shooting 67 and being 5 back is unbelievably rare, which makes shorting 67 and having your odds to win lessen unbelievably rare. It’s also unbelievable rare because you have to have extremely great odds to start

For example, Morikowa also shot 67 today and is 5 back. However, His odds got more than twice as good, went from +3300 to +1400

Scottie losing odds while shooting 67 is a unicorn occurrence.
This post was edited on 5/16/24 at 9:26 pm
Posted by BigApple
Member since Jun 2022
453 posts
Posted on 5/16/24 at 9:33 pm to
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Scottie losing odds while shooting 67 is a unicorn occurrence


WUT??? He was the favorite and now has 11 guys in front of him and tied with another 7 guys 25% through the event. What do you think the odds are supposed to do????
This post was edited on 5/16/24 at 9:35 pm
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96005 posts
Posted on 5/16/24 at 9:43 pm to
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WUT??? He was the favorite and now has 11 guys in front of him and tied with another 7 guys 25% through the event. What do you think the odds are supposed to do????
Holy shite

I understand fully how odds work and why his went down

It’s still an unbelievably rare occurrence to shoot an opening round 67 and have your odds to win lowered. That’s it.

To start you have to be a huge favorite. Secondly, other players have to shoot stupid low. Thirdly, the player that shoots stupid low has to be a big enough name to realistically give confidence they can hold on

If venture to say 99% of the time you shoot a round 1 67 your odds get better. Agreed?
This post was edited on 5/16/24 at 9:51 pm
Posted by BigApple
Member since Jun 2022
453 posts
Posted on 5/16/24 at 9:57 pm to
Not if your the favorite and 18 guys are ahead of you

ETA : he shot 4 under today. At last years us open 23 guys were 4 under or better after round one. The same thing would have happened if the favorite only shot 4 under in the 1st round. So it’s probably not that rare considering it just happened last year
This post was edited on 5/16/24 at 10:05 pm
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96005 posts
Posted on 5/16/24 at 10:14 pm to
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At last years us open 23 guys were 4 under or better after round one
What? 6 guys were -4 or better
Posted by hehateme2285
Katy, TX
Member since Dec 2007
5144 posts
Posted on 5/16/24 at 10:33 pm to
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At last years us open 23 guys were 4 under or better after round one


This isn’t even close to being correct
Posted by BigApple
Member since Jun 2022
453 posts
Posted on 5/16/24 at 10:45 pm to
Sorry. Thought it was a par 72. Still had 14 guys at 67 or better. Point still stands that if the favorite at the us open last year shot 67 his odds would have gone down.

It’s ridiculous to look at a score and then equate that to odds. It’s always how a player stands in relation to other players
This post was edited on 5/16/24 at 10:47 pm
Posted by unctiger4
Member since Mar 2015
2131 posts
Posted on 5/16/24 at 10:46 pm to
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lsupride87


I understand what you mean. Insane that he’s starting these tournaments at +450ish. Speaks to how dominant he’s been.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96005 posts
Posted on 5/16/24 at 10:57 pm to
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Sorry. Thought it was a par 72. Still had 14 guys at 67 or better. Point still stands that if the favorite at the us open last year shot 67 his odds would have gone down.
Scottie was the favorite at the us open last year. He did in fact shoot a 67

His odds got better after doing so…..Went from +700 to -+550 on the book
This post was edited on 5/16/24 at 10:58 pm
Posted by BigApple
Member since Jun 2022
453 posts
Posted on 5/16/24 at 11:18 pm to
That’s not what I found online. I’m sure all books are different but I’m seeing +700 going into event and + 750 after round 1.

Screw it, I don’t care. He’s not winning this week
This post was edited on 5/16/24 at 11:18 pm
Posted by BigApple
Member since Jun 2022
453 posts
Posted on 5/17/24 at 6:16 am to
Tough to win if your in jail
Posted by JimTiger72
Member since Jun 2023
5151 posts
Posted on 5/17/24 at 8:02 am to
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And his odds to win the tournament go down


What are his odds now?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96005 posts
Posted on 5/17/24 at 8:04 am to
Odds are still +500

I was thinking about taming him if I could have gotten a little “go to jail” juice
Posted by JimTiger72
Member since Jun 2023
5151 posts
Posted on 5/17/24 at 10:23 am to
Wild that he’s still 2nd best odds with his position & the situation. Schauffele at +240 & Morikawa at +1200.

Morikawa seems like best value
Posted by JimTiger72
Member since Jun 2023
5151 posts
Posted on 5/17/24 at 12:59 pm to
Scottie at -8 +260
Xander at -9 +300
Morikawa at -9 +550

ETA: Morikawa at -10 +360
This post was edited on 5/17/24 at 1:03 pm
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
24710 posts
Posted on 5/17/24 at 4:13 pm to
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Fresh off the birth of his son Scottie shoots an opening rd 67


Then gets arrested.













Too soon?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96005 posts
Posted on 5/17/24 at 7:10 pm to
Scottie is +330 now
Posted by JimTiger72
Member since Jun 2023
5151 posts
Posted on 5/18/24 at 1:33 pm to
+1400 live for those that think he can still win
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