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St. George and the future of EBR
Posted on 5/17/24 at 9:06 am
Posted on 5/17/24 at 9:06 am
Now that St. George is a go, what does the future of EBR look like?
I have read that approximately 65% of the tax base for EBR is gone now. The roads and infrastructure are already in terrible condition.
Do you have any comparisons for other cities that come to mind when looking at the future of EBR? I am lobbying the rest of my family who still reside in EBR to get out before things get too out of hand.
Maybe I am being an alarmist, but I am looking for other's opinions to assuage my concerns, or validate them.
I have read that approximately 65% of the tax base for EBR is gone now. The roads and infrastructure are already in terrible condition.
Do you have any comparisons for other cities that come to mind when looking at the future of EBR? I am lobbying the rest of my family who still reside in EBR to get out before things get too out of hand.
Maybe I am being an alarmist, but I am looking for other's opinions to assuage my concerns, or validate them.
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Posted on 5/17/24 at 9:09 am to Leotiger725
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Now that St. George is a go, what does the future of EBR look like?
It's not a "go" until the State Supreme Court denies MOP/Lamont "You Big Dummy" Cole's request to rehear. Until then, I'm skeptical about this ever happening.
Posted on 5/17/24 at 9:10 am to Leotiger725
If 65% of the tax base for BR was outside the city of BR, that was unsustainable regardless of St George incorporating.
How many other cities in the country were getting 65% of their tax money from areas they didn’t have to service?
How many other cities in the country were getting 65% of their tax money from areas they didn’t have to service?
Posted on 5/17/24 at 9:10 am to Leotiger725
Well it can’t get much worse. The school system is terrible now. The police department is going to have layoffs. Public works as well.
Posted on 5/17/24 at 9:11 am to lsufan1971
Public works is parish, not city.
BRPD and BRFD? They about to be fricked because they were funded out of the parish general fund. Which should never have been done in the first place.
BRPD and BRFD? They about to be fricked because they were funded out of the parish general fund. Which should never have been done in the first place.
Posted on 5/17/24 at 9:12 am to Leotiger725
They will continue to make government housing and give bs grants and housing approvals in the suburbs like they are doing in WBR, and swing back and gentrify BR in about 5 to 10 years.
Posted on 5/17/24 at 9:14 am to Leotiger725
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I have read that approximately 65% of the tax base for EBR is gone now. The roads and infrastructure are already in terrible condition.
Are you kidding me? Maybe 65% of the residential property tax base but all of the industrial property tax, sales tax, and ad valorem taxes are in BR city. Also much of the support services such as sheriff, FD, public works, parks are EBR wide taxes.
Seems now that the hoods of NBR now have a gold mine for tax money.
Posted on 5/17/24 at 9:20 am to Leotiger725
I am happy for St. George getting the green light, but at the risk of being a wet blanket, I am afraid it may be too little too late for the entire area as it’s going to prove impossible to separate them from the crime that will affect both the same now and in the future to come, especially since we’ve all but guaranteed that the leadership in BR will remain fixed in a permanent state of hopelessness, and that’s going to have a real bleed over effect in St. George as well as the rest of the surrounding areas.
Truth is, we cannot run from any of this. We are going to have to tackle it head on OR you just have to leave the entire state and make a better quality of life for yourselves. Unless people plan on erecting a giant wall with a moat and alligators with .50 cal turrets mounted in random areas to keep the criminal and ugly at bay, this is going to eventually take over everywhere.
Truth is, we cannot run from any of this. We are going to have to tackle it head on OR you just have to leave the entire state and make a better quality of life for yourselves. Unless people plan on erecting a giant wall with a moat and alligators with .50 cal turrets mounted in random areas to keep the criminal and ugly at bay, this is going to eventually take over everywhere.
Posted on 5/17/24 at 9:21 am to Leotiger725
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I have read that approximately 65% of the tax base for EBR is gone now
Posted on 5/17/24 at 9:22 am to Mike da Tigah
St George is a chance to fix things.
The organizers originally wanted to fix the EBRP school system and, then, form their own Independent School District. They were told “go make your own” to the former and “you need a city” for the latter.
It took as long as it did because the city and the school board have been putting up barriers to try and prevent any reform that takes money or control away from them.
If the parish fails, it can be laid directly at the feet of people who blocked reform in order to retain control.
The organizers originally wanted to fix the EBRP school system and, then, form their own Independent School District. They were told “go make your own” to the former and “you need a city” for the latter.
It took as long as it did because the city and the school board have been putting up barriers to try and prevent any reform that takes money or control away from them.
If the parish fails, it can be laid directly at the feet of people who blocked reform in order to retain control.
Posted on 5/17/24 at 9:24 am to Leotiger725
EBR’s most endearing trait is its endless devotion to mundane studies. Yet, the potential outcomes for this issue don’t warrant a second thought.
Posted on 5/17/24 at 9:51 am to Leotiger725
Look at kenner, harahan, just off the top of my head. St. George is going to be great for everyday people, within a decade, it’ll be the place to be in BR! Give it time.
Posted on 5/17/24 at 9:56 am to Datbawwwww
The next suit will be one filed by the City of St George against the parish over tax money. Just a reminder , all of this started bc a small group of legislators decided to strike down legislation that would have allowed ST George to create its own school district. They point blank said “we can’t do this bc you aren’t a city “. St George accepted those terms and here we are.
Posted on 5/17/24 at 10:05 am to Leotiger725
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I have read that approximately 65% of the tax base for EBR is gone now.
I don't think that is right.
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The roads and infrastructure are already in terrible condition.
That's a parish issue (for the most part), so that should not change...which is not to say the roads don't need work.
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Do you have any comparisons for other cities that come to mind when looking at the future of EBR?
Someone on here mentioned Birmingham, AL as an example of an area that has done well because it has so many independent school districts.
But I cannot personally verify that.
I live in the City of BR. I will probably have to pay more taxes because of St. George, but that's really because the city was using the rest of the parish to pay for basic services so the city could pay for police. Which was a screwed-up way to do things.
I hope and believe, this would cause less flight out of Baton Rouge. Sucks for Ascension, but good for EBR.
Posted on 5/17/24 at 10:09 am to michael corleone
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The next suit will be one filed by the City of St George against the parish over tax money.
Null annexations need to be addressed first, because thall be 5 years of back taxes on about $32 million of property during that time.
Posted on 5/17/24 at 10:10 am to udtiger
Settling the date of incorporation should handle both.
If the incorporation date is the date of the vote, it invalidates the incorporation of those areas into BR and sets the date of taxes owed.
If the incorporation date is the date of the vote, it invalidates the incorporation of those areas into BR and sets the date of taxes owed.
Posted on 5/17/24 at 10:14 am to Leotiger725
Yesterday the BR Business Report had a report that BR and EBR Parish continued to lose population. .The trend per the Census Bureau has been going on for three years.
I’d love to see the demographics. I’d wager our population is aging as younger folks exit the Parish.
BR mirrors our state. All our neighbors are growing while we decline.
Louisiana chose the movie industry, the gambling industry, and the trial lawyers and nursing home interests to support. What did our neighbors do?
We let the socialists run our parish and instead of teaching our children EBR feeds them three meals a day and the system pats itself on the back. Instead of bringing law and order and bringing the gangs to justice; they pretended that all is well as the killing ramped back up.
The engineers, consultants, and marketing groups are doing great though, Just look at how much they are able to donate to the politicians who control the awards to all these large public works programs.
All the headway that Downtown made under Kip was lost. All the progress made in stymying the gangs he made was lost when our govt. stabbed the cops in the back.
The govt. that fought SG.
The numbers:
Year. Population. Rate of change
1980 220,394 32.8%
1990 219,531 -0.4%
2000 227,818 3.8%
2010 229,493 0.7%
2020 227,470 -0.9%
U.S. Decennial Census[61]
I’d love to see the demographics. I’d wager our population is aging as younger folks exit the Parish.
BR mirrors our state. All our neighbors are growing while we decline.
Louisiana chose the movie industry, the gambling industry, and the trial lawyers and nursing home interests to support. What did our neighbors do?
We let the socialists run our parish and instead of teaching our children EBR feeds them three meals a day and the system pats itself on the back. Instead of bringing law and order and bringing the gangs to justice; they pretended that all is well as the killing ramped back up.
The engineers, consultants, and marketing groups are doing great though, Just look at how much they are able to donate to the politicians who control the awards to all these large public works programs.
All the headway that Downtown made under Kip was lost. All the progress made in stymying the gangs he made was lost when our govt. stabbed the cops in the back.
The govt. that fought SG.
The numbers:
Year. Population. Rate of change
1980 220,394 32.8%
1990 219,531 -0.4%
2000 227,818 3.8%
2010 229,493 0.7%
2020 227,470 -0.9%
U.S. Decennial Census[61]
This post was edited on 5/18/24 at 12:58 pm
Posted on 5/17/24 at 10:15 am to Leotiger725
EBR isn't changing.
Posted on 5/17/24 at 10:35 am to Leotiger725
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I have read that approximately 65% of the tax base for EBR is gone now. The roads and infrastructure are already in terrible condition.
Quite curious that the roads would be so bad with all of that extra money coming in pretty much externally. Seems like EBR had plenty of time and opportunity to do right by their constituents.
Posted on 5/17/24 at 10:54 am to Tchefuncte Tiger
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It's not a "go" until the State Supreme Court denies MOP/Lamont "You Big Dummy" Cole's request to rehear. Until then, I'm skeptical about this ever happening.
I'm with you 100%. Until all of the mayor's resources have been exhausted, I still refuse to get my hopes up and believe this will happen.
In fact, I can't imagine the dark money flowing towards the LA Supreme Court to get ONE justice to change their vote. It was 4-3. The leftist cash being dangled in front of them has to be alarming. If they grant the re-hearing, which I'm still certain they likely will, I think it's all moot.
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