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re: 2017 Ford F-150: 2.7 Ecoboost or 5.0 V8
Posted on 9/26/17 at 8:13 pm to TypoKnig
Posted on 9/26/17 at 8:13 pm to TypoKnig
I have a '13 5.0 4x4. Lifetime mpg is 16.0. That's pulling boats from day one with 33" ATs. I have 102k miles and it will be 4 years old this December. Pulling my 22' bayboat I get 10-11.5mpg depending on traffic. City I get 15 and 75mph I get 16-17.
Solid as day one. Hoping to keep it until 175k. It sounds pretty good with the magnaflow too
What size bayboat? It sounds like that will be your deciding factor
Solid as day one. Hoping to keep it until 175k. It sounds pretty good with the magnaflow too
What size bayboat? It sounds like that will be your deciding factor
This post was edited on 9/26/17 at 8:15 pm
Posted on 9/26/17 at 8:21 pm to biggsc
I had a 14 fx4 with the 3.5 ecoboost with a leveling kit and 35s. I got 8-10 pulling 22’ bay boat and avg 14-16. Stock it got 18-20 hwy and that’s at 55.
I traded it in for a 17 xlt 5.0 and I’m very happy with my decision. It pulls better and gets better gas mileage. 12 pulling boat and 18 avg city and hwy. I feel a lot better about it not leaving me on the side of the road with engine issues the ecoboost are known to have. If you tow a lot get the 5.0, if you city drive get the 2.7
I traded it in for a 17 xlt 5.0 and I’m very happy with my decision. It pulls better and gets better gas mileage. 12 pulling boat and 18 avg city and hwy. I feel a lot better about it not leaving me on the side of the road with engine issues the ecoboost are known to have. If you tow a lot get the 5.0, if you city drive get the 2.7
This post was edited on 9/26/17 at 8:24 pm
Posted on 9/26/17 at 8:27 pm to TypoKnig
5.0 no doubt. I’ll sell you a 2017 Lariat FX4 when you’re ready.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 8:29 pm to SeaPickle
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What size bayboat? It sounds like that will be your deciding factor
20'
Posted on 9/26/17 at 8:41 pm to Jule
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5.0 no doubt. I’ll sell you a 2017 Lariat FX4 when you’re ready.
I wish I had bought a lariat when I bought my XLT, but I'm a 5.0 guy all the way if I'm buying a Ford.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 8:48 pm to kywildcatfanone
I'm on my second 5.0. First was a 12 lariat 2wd. I now have a 17 lariat 4x4 believe it or not the 4x4 gets better mileage due to aluminum body. I've pulled a 18' boat and my old bronco around and the 5.0 has never bogged down. The braking is the only thing you have to compensate for when towing. I considered the 3.5 this go round but I'm happy by my 5.0. I'd like to see what the mileage will be with the new 10 speed. I've had the 6 speed with both trucks.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 8:52 pm to cajuncarguy
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compacted graphite iron block
It is a two piece engine block design with the bottom half of the block made from aluminum.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 9:12 pm to TypoKnig
I've owned four 5.0, including the boss302. No problems. The engine needs the 3.73 gears because it makes it's power at higher revs. This is important especially if you want to turn 1 or 2 inch taller tires.
Eco has had its growing pains, I can't speak for that motor first hand.
Eco has had its growing pains, I can't speak for that motor first hand.
This post was edited on 9/26/17 at 9:14 pm
Posted on 9/26/17 at 9:19 pm to down time
I have the 3.55. Wish I had the 3.73 sometimes. The motor is a rever that's for sure.
Posted on 9/26/17 at 9:53 pm to SeaPickle
I've got a 5.4L and I'll probably be buying the 2.7L next.
My buddy has one that gets over 13 mpg while towing a 22 ft center console.
I'm impressed with the 2.7L (I never thought I'd say that)
My buddy has one that gets over 13 mpg while towing a 22 ft center console.
I'm impressed with the 2.7L (I never thought I'd say that)
Posted on 9/26/17 at 10:12 pm to TypoKnig
2.7 EB guy here. It is a completely different animal than the 3.5 EB. It is a great motor but the real homerun is the transmission gearing and rear end ratio options. This is why you see some youtube videos stating the 2.7 EB as being the fastest F150.
Towing with 2.7 EB: it tows moderate loads fine. When it needs power, it gets down with torque. However you need to know how turbos work. Engine load is direct relation to injector impedence. They get thirsty quick. But to my light towing, its worth it.
I avg 21mpg daily driving where I avg 16mpg in same driving with GM 5.3 w/ AFM (4 cyl mode). Towing 17ft dual axle steel trailer loaded I get 10mpg. It takes a different throttle foot to get decent mpg while towing. If you have ever rented a moving van with "mpg guage" you know what I mean. Its essentially a vacuum/boost gauge... again direct relation to injector impedence.
I recommend anyone to test drive a 2.7 EB
Towing with 2.7 EB: it tows moderate loads fine. When it needs power, it gets down with torque. However you need to know how turbos work. Engine load is direct relation to injector impedence. They get thirsty quick. But to my light towing, its worth it.
I avg 21mpg daily driving where I avg 16mpg in same driving with GM 5.3 w/ AFM (4 cyl mode). Towing 17ft dual axle steel trailer loaded I get 10mpg. It takes a different throttle foot to get decent mpg while towing. If you have ever rented a moving van with "mpg guage" you know what I mean. Its essentially a vacuum/boost gauge... again direct relation to injector impedence.
I recommend anyone to test drive a 2.7 EB
This post was edited on 9/26/17 at 10:21 pm
Posted on 9/26/17 at 11:43 pm to TypoKnig
I have a 2011 F150 Supercrew Offroad 4x4 with the 3.5 EB
140K miles
18.7 MPG for the life of the truck and I drive a mix of town, highway, and interstate and most are hilly
Set the cruise on 75 on I-10 and it gets 21 MPG
140K miles
18.7 MPG for the life of the truck and I drive a mix of town, highway, and interstate and most are hilly
Set the cruise on 75 on I-10 and it gets 21 MPG
Posted on 9/26/17 at 11:56 pm to ChelseaTiger
What, do they bolt the two pieces together or something? That is one of the dumbest engine designs I've heard of in a long time
Posted on 9/27/17 at 1:06 am to Hammertime
It's actually a very good design. The CGI block portion is stronger and more rigid than a comparable aluminum unit and doesn't need cylinder liners. The aluminum part provides lightweight structural support and better NVH characteristics as well as a large thermal sink for the engine. For a small, turbocharged engine that has to cope with living in a full sized truck it's smart approach and will probably see adoption in future turbo diesels.
Posted on 9/27/17 at 1:40 am to Clames
I was thinking more along the lines of hundreds of thousands of cycles of thermal expansion and contraction at different rates. It's bound to cause problems. Why not make the whole thing out of CGI instead of just the crankcase out of aluminum?
It's basically creating a solution for no problem, and that solution could be an eventual failure point
It's basically creating a solution for no problem, and that solution could be an eventual failure point
Posted on 9/27/17 at 2:30 am to Hammertime
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I was thinking more along the lines of hundreds of thousands of cycles of thermal expansion and contraction at different rates. It's bound to cause problems.
Versus the millions of engines GM, Ford, and Chrysler have put in trucks and cars with cast iron blocks and aluminum alloy heads? Think they got that problem figured out by now.
Posted on 9/27/17 at 6:38 am to Tigerhead
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I'm curious why you think it's dumb? I thought it was pretty telling. I always talk to mechanics about any product before I buy. Do you think it was staged?
I'd rather hear what a random group of engineers think about the matter than a group of backwoods oil change jockeys.
Posted on 9/27/17 at 6:48 am to s14suspense
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I'd rather hear what a random group of engineers think about the matter than a group of backwoods oil change jockeys.
I'm an engineer myself and this still sounds foolish.
Posted on 9/27/17 at 7:13 am to TypoKnig
Based on discussions I’ve had with others, the V-8 gets about the same or even slightly better mileage than my eco boost. Based on my own experience, though not apples to apples, I expect that is accurate. My 5.4 v-8 in my 01 lariat (2 wd) got about 19, my 2012 FX4 gets about 17.5. Both highway miles. Clearly the FX4 is heavier but people I’ve spoken with tell me they get 18-19 with the v-8 in FX4 in my year range.
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