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re: Westworld S2 E9: Vanishing Point
Posted on 6/19/18 at 12:39 pm to LSU Coyote
Posted on 6/19/18 at 12:39 pm to LSU Coyote
There’s been so much filler throughout this let down of a season. William has the most interesting storyline of any character, which is why I was happy that last episode was more or less about him. Delores is the worst, by far. I’m glad Maeve’s stupid shite is over too. And Maeve was not Fords favorite, that was clearly Delores. This show tries too hard to be smart, then throws in random stupid shite that makes no sense.
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Posted on 6/19/18 at 1:46 pm to Triple Bogey
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And Maeve was not Fords favorite, that was clearly Delores
Well maybe.
But that whole scene was completely dumb. It felt like a lie for the audience.
This post was edited on 6/19/18 at 1:54 pm
Posted on 6/19/18 at 1:56 pm to The Boat
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at it was designed to make people hate William by having him blow away his daughter and rescue crew since he’s an old white man
I don't understand how this kind of stuff goes on in peoples head while watching a movies / tv shows.
They only want people to hate William cause he is an old white man? There are lots of old white men in this show.
ETA: Regarding this show, its one of those stories with tons and tons of moving parts that will either fall apart at the end and be pretty bad or, if they pull it off where everything comes together is incredible. Those are my favorite type of stories, much riskier but a much greater reward if done well.
This post was edited on 6/19/18 at 2:00 pm
Posted on 6/19/18 at 2:23 pm to Triple Bogey
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And Maeve was not Fords favorite, that was clearly Delores
Dolores and Arnold were the pair. To my knowledge, the only preference Ford ever showed Dolores was the recreation of Arnold’s suicide.
Posted on 6/19/18 at 2:27 pm to LSU Coyote
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Shogun world.
It doesn't get more Pointless than this shtt.
Shogun world actually had a lot of good themes and information in it.
1) Maeve’s handling of freedom of choice, allowing Akane to remain ignorant of their true nature. Also allowing Musashi and Akane to remain in the world.
2) Maeve learns to access the mesh network.
3) We get an interesting world building tidbit in how Lee copied his narratives across other parks.
That is way more than we got out of the Confederado plot and Fort Forlorn Hope.
Posted on 6/19/18 at 2:42 pm to The Boat
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I hate that it was designed to make people hate William by having him blow away his daughter and rescue crew since he’s an old white man.
According to who? Maybe, just maybe, it wasn’t intentional and you’re one of those people who choose to see race in everything. Get a grip!
Also Ed Harris’s is one of those actors that usually plays the bad guy in many of things he’s in.
Posted on 6/19/18 at 3:09 pm to CorporateTiger
Posted on 6/19/18 at 4:57 pm to LSU Coyote
Hope it’s not terrible like his GOT watch videos.
Posted on 6/20/18 at 3:26 pm to Graham Wellington Jr
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Maybe the MIB is Delos's copy of himself, that they were letting grow.
Maybe Delos is actually short for Delores... and she's the puppet master. The only actual humans left on Earth are the handful in the park and are unaware they are being "used" by the hosts in a cathartic revenge game... and she's saving MIB to snuff out last.
Posted on 6/21/18 at 8:06 am to CorporateTiger
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I’m not convinced Emily was human
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I’m not sure why Ford couldn’t plant a second card on host-Emily.
Ford is still pulling all the strings, this wouldn't surprise me one bit.
Did anyone else think that William was about to scalp Emily to verify she was a host before he saw the card in her hand?
This post was edited on 6/21/18 at 8:11 am
Posted on 6/21/18 at 8:28 am to The_Joker
quote:bc this board is obsessed with all things trashy, and she is the epitome of trashy robot skank.
Why am I so turned on by Zombie Clementine
Posted on 6/21/18 at 8:34 am to CockHolliday
That's where I thought it was going
Posted on 6/21/18 at 10:17 am to airfernando
Here's a theory...a far out theory that occurred to me while rewatching the episode yesterday. Granted I watched while partaking in some green, 
which is what it's out there a lil.
I have a feeling Hale used Clementine's power to force Teddy into what he did. In the preview for next episode you see Clementine on a horse riding up the steps. Maeve is completely freaked out, because she knows what power Clementine has.
which is what it's out there a lil. I have a feeling Hale used Clementine's power to force Teddy into what he did. In the preview for next episode you see Clementine on a horse riding up the steps. Maeve is completely freaked out, because she knows what power Clementine has.
Posted on 6/21/18 at 10:42 am to AllUrCrootsRBlong2Us
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Granted I watched while partaking in some green
Podcast I listen to calls this "Blazing Saddles"
Posted on 6/21/18 at 2:19 pm to CockHolliday
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Did anyone else think that William was about to scalp Emily to verify she was a host before he saw the card in her hand?
Thought he was about to cut her forearm open. And it looked like he was about to do that to himself at the end. Lots of overt foreshadowing with him playing with his cuffs and forearm the night of the party.
Posted on 6/21/18 at 4:48 pm to CockHolliday
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Did anyone else think that William was about to scalp Emily to verify she was a host before he saw the card in her hand?
It sure looked like it. I cringed getting ready for it.
Posted on 6/21/18 at 5:08 pm to TigerstuckinMS
sums up this shtt show pretty well
This post was edited on 6/21/18 at 5:09 pm
Posted on 6/21/18 at 5:11 pm to TigerstuckinMS
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It sure looked like it. I cringed getting ready for it.
I don't think you guys understand why the maze is drawn on scalps.
Just explained one episode ago. Come on!
Fyi, access port in arm.
This post was edited on 6/21/18 at 5:12 pm
Posted on 6/21/18 at 7:05 pm to CockHolliday
Hosts have that USB-type link in their forearms, it's the same thing as when Bernard cut his forearm open to get rid of Ford later in the episode. William clinched his forearm a few times during the episode, which makes me think he had already started questioning if he was real before the events of the show.
If you check out his "self-portrait" when Juliet pulls it up on the tablet you can see Delos' profile has him tagged with attributes like "persecutory, paranoia, dellusional" subtypes, so it would make sense that he isn't quite sure about himself. Maybe he is human, and it's just a pseudo phantom limb he thinks he is experiencing from USB link.
His daughter very well could have been made into a host, without said host ever realizing any difference, with card being duplicated. I think if she was real, his arc is gonna take one hell of a time getting to an emotional payoff for viewers, unless they plan to just send him down a dark path for good. I think it would be iffy to do that, considering he isn't thinking straight with Ford mind fricking him on top of that.
Either way, they are clearly setting up for a William/Dolores reunion in episode 10.
Oh, and if you are an Always Sunny fan:
If you check out his "self-portrait" when Juliet pulls it up on the tablet you can see Delos' profile has him tagged with attributes like "persecutory, paranoia, dellusional" subtypes, so it would make sense that he isn't quite sure about himself. Maybe he is human, and it's just a pseudo phantom limb he thinks he is experiencing from USB link.
His daughter very well could have been made into a host, without said host ever realizing any difference, with card being duplicated. I think if she was real, his arc is gonna take one hell of a time getting to an emotional payoff for viewers, unless they plan to just send him down a dark path for good. I think it would be iffy to do that, considering he isn't thinking straight with Ford mind fricking him on top of that.
Either way, they are clearly setting up for a William/Dolores reunion in episode 10.
Oh, and if you are an Always Sunny fan:
This post was edited on 6/21/18 at 7:12 pm
Posted on 6/22/18 at 10:57 am to GetEmTigers08
Didn't Ford Request the additional Native's in season 1 for his final narrative and the writer who was complaining about it, said something to the effect of "it would be hard to keep the rest of the host on their correct narrative"? What if all of the natives that he requested were pulled at that point then even the "enlightened" one that saw the door was just a story-line, thus supporting the theory of everyone is a host except William (MIB). If that were the case then the world inside the cradle would just be a massive server and all the host are just data the the servers are computing to run the "loop" until William's data completed all the scenarios necessary for eternal life. The aging and events of everything that ties together are just data that instead of showing it in 1010110 format they are showing how it would have actually appeared if it was "real life". Bernard Killing all the host was a way to depict that the process is complete and all the host (data) was no longer necessary, the team that came to the island to "save" everyone actually depicted the information being "saved" to the hard drive instead of actually saving people. William could then be shown hooked to a machine as young William but similar to the movie inception, the time the computer took to "format" that information was only a few minutes in real life at the end of the last episode. Just a Theory. 
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