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New Job Negotiations
Posted on 10/14/18 at 8:14 pm
Posted on 10/14/18 at 8:14 pm
Any of y’all have good suggestions on how to properly negotiate a fair compensation for a new job?
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Posted on 10/14/18 at 8:19 pm to glaceau
Have they already given you a number?
Posted on 10/14/18 at 8:29 pm to glaceau
Totally depends on the situation. Sometimes you don't really have any leverage, other times you do.
Posted on 10/14/18 at 8:43 pm to Civildawg
Nope no number as of now. They asked me for a number and I said I need to understand the entire picture more in order to find a good price for both of us.
Posted on 10/14/18 at 9:02 pm to glaceau
Under no circumstances give them a number
Posted on 10/14/18 at 9:03 pm to glaceau
Let them tell you how bad they want you.
Posted on 10/14/18 at 9:22 pm to Mr.Perfect
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Under no circumstances give them a number
Sounds like they're hoping he low balls himself
And they can still negotiate down from that number
Posted on 10/14/18 at 9:23 pm to glaceau
What stage of your career are you in? What is your current situation? Happy where you're at?
Definitely don't be the first to throw out a number.
With that being said, if you know the market very well for that industry/position/area, it's not a terrible idea to go ahead and out your number down. But odds are you don't.
Definitely don't be the first to throw out a number.
With that being said, if you know the market very well for that industry/position/area, it's not a terrible idea to go ahead and out your number down. But odds are you don't.
This post was edited on 10/15/18 at 8:03 am
Posted on 10/14/18 at 9:37 pm to glaceau
How is your current job? Are you happy there? If so, I would throw the number out that it would take for you to leave
Posted on 10/14/18 at 9:45 pm to glaceau
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Nope no number as of now. They asked me for a number
They are trying to frick you. And if a company tries to frick you on the way in, it's all but assured they will try to frick you every step along the way.
Posted on 10/14/18 at 9:50 pm to Joshjrn
I find that compensation conversations have gotten more transparent as I’ve progressed in my career. Generally, I don’t think people should be too specific with a number but I also am not opposed to starting with an aggressive number as a first mover. It can also create an anchor point in ones favor.
Posted on 10/14/18 at 11:16 pm to glaceau
Research the average for your position. Have a justification for whatever number you name. Don't apologise for it or sell yourself short. Be creative in negotiations.
Posted on 10/15/18 at 8:27 am to PearlJam
The company is gonna have an average salaray for the position they will probably bring you on at 90% of that salary depending on your experience. Ask for a competitive salary . If they give you a good number ask for 3 weeks vacation and a signing bonus. Vacation and signing bonus are the easiest to negotiate.
Posted on 10/15/18 at 8:49 am to CE Tiger
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If they give you a good number ask for 3 weeks vacation and a signing bonus.
Why would you ask for 3 weeks? Ask for at least 4. If you are 5 years out of school and not offered at least 3 weeks then you should be looking elsewhere. 2 weeks of leave is bottom of the barrel and frankly BS. 3 weeks is standard, 4 weeks should be the minimum to be considered a bonus.
Op, you should be looking for at least a 20% bump in pay to change jobs especially if you have to move. You are giving up potential job security and likely near term pay increases at your current job.
It’s really not that hard to determine pay in your own field. It should be something everyone knows. It’s hard for someone in a different career field to help with that sometimes especially if you are specialized or in a different region.
This post was edited on 10/15/18 at 8:51 am
Posted on 10/16/18 at 1:26 pm to glaceau
Start at bls.gov. While not perfect, you can get an idea for the mean. Also goolge reddit (your position and pay).
Posted on 10/16/18 at 1:57 pm to baldona
Actually the biggest complaint I get with new hires coming from a different company is that they didn’t negotiate vacataion. They see a big new salary and jump at the opportunity and forget the details. I was one of them. Was working for 5 years and got an offer that was 25% higher and said yes immediately. Next thing you know I’m at a job waiting 6 months to get vacation and waiting another 5 years to get to 3 weeks.
Posted on 10/16/18 at 2:05 pm to CE Tiger
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Actually the biggest complaint I get with new hires coming from a different company is that they didn’t negotiate vacataion. They see a big new salary and jump at the opportunity and forget the details. I was one of them. Was working for 5 years and got an offer that was 25% higher and said yes immediately. Next thing you know I’m at a job waiting 6 months to get vacation and waiting another 5 years to get to 3 weeks.
Very good point.
I'm very fortunate to work on a team that is flexible with vacation. We take it when we need it and no one abuses that culture...technically I get 3 weeks but we don't count days. If there is ever a concern of someone abusing the lenient policy, then we have a discussion about it.
On the whole, 4 weeks minimum for me going forward if I were to leave.
This post was edited on 10/16/18 at 2:06 pm
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