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re: The ATL Thread: 2021 World Champion Atlanta Braves Offseason Thread

Posted on 11/29/21 at 9:33 pm to
Posted by VADawg
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Posted on 11/29/21 at 9:33 pm to
Here's an interesting comment from a Reddit thread. No clue if true or not, but given the surprisingly short suspension and her past history, I'm kind of inclined to believe it.

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***EDIT:*** just to get ahead of this, I want to reiterate this is to be taken with several grains of salt, because I’ve heard this second hand. This is also something I’ve held onto for several months waiting for a somewhat appropriate time to say it. I cannot confirm the accuracy of this, I’m not trying to start a rumor or anything like that, I’m simply passing on one person’s conversation with someone who we would have good reason to believe is in “the know.” Honestly I feel pretty uncomfortable even posting this, this isn’t normally my M.O. Go easy on me.

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So, grain of salt, but my dad works in high end entertainment and as such has connections and good relationships with several high(ish) profile media members based in Atlanta, including (but not limited to) John Barry, Charles Barkley, Art Eckman, and several involved with the Braves, one which I will not name to protect anonymity in case this were to catch on.

Essentially what is believed internally is that Marcell is a victim of perpetual abuse from his wife, as evidenced by her previous arrest for domestic violence against him, and that when police arrived he was restraining her from further violence against him. The team believes he’s pretty much a prisoner in his own home, but because a vast majority of the country and public opinion still does not believe a man can be an abuse victim, they are extremely hesitant to publicly go to bat for him. The belief is that they will quietly attempt to move him, and if not, not address it again and hope it just goes away.

The main takeaway though here is that, again grain of salt because this is according to my dad in a conversation with a prominent local Braves media person, Marcell is not believed internally* to be an abuser and that the team would like to help him more if they could without the public perception ripping them to shreds.


Link to comment in thread

Absolutely brutal situation for him if this is true.
Posted by Metaloctopus
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Posted on 11/29/21 at 9:51 pm to
If that is true, and the Braves believe he is completely innocent, then they shouldn't be looking to move him. If they don't want to publicly say that they believe he is actually the victim, because they're afraid of the media's reaction, I think that's weak, but they can choose to say nothing. But to try to trade him to get rid of the situation would be dumb. As much money as they gave him, they just need to let him play and forget what anyone thinks.
Posted by flyAU
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Posted on 11/29/21 at 9:53 pm to
Hey I know many don’t go on the Atl board on here but was looking for some feedback

Atl thread
Posted by VADawg
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Posted on 11/29/21 at 10:27 pm to
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they don't want to publicly say that they believe he is actually the victim, because they're afraid of the media's reaction, I think that's weak


I agree. If any of this is true, if they're ever going to step up to bat for him, right after a World Series parade is a good time.

If the version that involves her chasing him with a knife and threatening to kill him is the truth, I would be more disappointed in the Braves NOT going to bat for him and all other men.
Posted by VADawg
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Posted on 11/29/21 at 10:27 pm to
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Hey I know many don’t go on the Atl board on here but was looking for some feedback


I chimed in but truthfully I would be just as clueless
Posted by flyAU
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Posted on 11/29/21 at 10:29 pm to


Yeah this isn’t your run of the mill event.
Posted by Broski
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Posted on 11/29/21 at 11:27 pm to
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then they shouldn't be looking to move him.


Who says they are?
Posted by VADawg
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Posted on 11/29/21 at 11:28 pm to
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Who says they are?


See my post at the top of the page.
Posted by Broski
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Posted on 11/29/21 at 11:29 pm to
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If the version that involves her chasing him with a knife and threatening to kill him is the truth, I would be more disappointed in the Braves NOT going to bat for him and all other men.



Nah, there is no point to virtue signal one way or the other.

It's a lose-lose situation. Whatever stance you take, a group of potential ticket holders will be pissed. Just release that one statement and let this get lost in the news cycle and never speak of it again.
Posted by Metaloctopus
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Posted on 11/29/21 at 11:53 pm to
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Who says they are?


I guess you didn't read the content of the post I responded to.
Posted by Metaloctopus
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Posted on 11/30/21 at 12:05 am to
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Nah, there is no point to virtue signal one way or the other.

It's a lose-lose situation. Whatever stance you take, a group of potential ticket holders will be pissed. Just release that one statement and let this get lost in the news cycle and never speak of it again.


It's not virtue signaling to stand up for someone and say they are innocent, if they are innocent. People just throw that phrase around without thinking about what it actually means, these days. I prefer to use it where it applies.

Making a guy apologize, or trading him, IF you have proof that he is innocent, is virtue signaling. Because, at that point, you aren't basing your stance on facts, you're just trying to appeal to the emotions of the vocal minority. Speaking of vocal minority, that leads me to this:

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Whatever stance you take, a group of potential ticket holders will be pissed.


That's a very small group of people. Did all of the fans doing the chop in the face of all the media whining give you the impression that the Braves fan base is a bunch of woke liberals?

Now, understand that all of this is hypothetical, because we don't know if any of this story about what the Braves are saying behind closed doors is true. We don't know if they are privately of the belief that Ozuna was, in fact, the victim. But IF it is true, they need to stand behind the guy. No one's saying they need to go on a crusade. Just simply stand behind Marcell, himself, if they truly believe he is innocent. The mob can't hurt you if you ignore them.
This post was edited on 11/30/21 at 12:10 am
Posted by diremustang
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Posted on 11/30/21 at 12:20 am to
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Now, understand that all of this is hypothetical, because we don't know if any of this story about what the Braves are saying behind closed doors is true.
People are speculating on an anonymous post by a guy who heard from his dad who heard from a guy. This is peak message board. That said it is pretty obvious that Ozuna shouldn't still be with her. Hopefully he can move on and focus on himself and the job that he is obviously very passionate about
This post was edited on 11/30/21 at 12:22 am
Posted by Metaloctopus
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Posted on 11/30/21 at 12:26 am to
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People are speculating on an anonymous post by a guy who heard from his dad who heard from a guy. This is peak message board


At least we admit it is only speculation. What else is there to talk about on a Monday night?

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that said it is pretty obvious that Ozuna shouldn't still be with her. Hopefully he can move on and focus on himself and the job that he is obviously very passionate about


She clearly has big issues. So yeah, I think it would probably be best if he got as far away from her as possible.
Posted by Broski
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Posted on 11/30/21 at 12:27 am to
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People just throw that phrase around without thinking about what it actually means, these days. I prefer to use it where it applies.


Jesus Christ
Posted by Metaloctopus
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Posted on 11/30/21 at 12:32 am to
Learn how to use the expression where it applies. One does not "virtue signal" simply by taking any position at all. Words have meaning. You render them meaningless when you just call everything virtue signaling, just as the left has made the word "racist" meaningless.
This post was edited on 11/30/21 at 12:33 am
Posted by Broski
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Posted on 11/30/21 at 12:39 am to
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Learn how to use the expression where it applies.


LOL, ok champ.
Posted by DawgCountry
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Posted on 11/30/21 at 8:37 am to
Dodgers rumored to be offering 7yrs 300M for Freddie….
Posted by SwampDonks
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Posted on 11/30/21 at 8:46 am to
Lol what? No shot
Posted by dhuck20
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Posted on 11/30/21 at 8:50 am to
NSIAP

Posted by diremustang
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Posted on 11/30/21 at 9:04 am to
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Dodgers rumored to be offering 7yrs 300M for Freddie….
You're on crack if you believe this
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