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Car prices aren’t coming down anytime soon.

Posted on 7/25/23 at 6:52 am
Posted by CollegeFBRules
Member since Oct 2008
24277 posts
Posted on 7/25/23 at 6:52 am
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•      Car­mak­ers con­tinue to defy pre­dic­tions from Wall Street an­a­lysts that their av­er­age prices will de­te­ri­o­rate as the in­dus­try in­creases ve­hi­cle sup­ply fol­low­ing a pro­longed short­age be­cause of sup­ply-chain trou­bles. GM’s re­sult shows that strong pric­ing is last­ing longer than an­a­lysts and auto ex­ec­u­tives an­tic­i­pated. 

•      Strong de­mand for some of GM’s big­gest mon­ey­mak­ers—in­clud­ing newer ver­sions of its largest pickup trucks—led to a 39% surge in pre­tax profit from North Amer­ica, to $3.2 bil­lion. 

•      The av­er­age price cus­tomers paid for a GM ve­hi­cle rose in the sec­ond quar­ter by about 3% from the prior quar­ter to around $52,000, the com­pany said. 

•      JP Mor­gan said the sec­ond quar­ter “could rep­re­sent the best of both worlds for au­tomak­ers, with vol­ume and pric­ing both track­ing strong.” 


Wall Street Journal

People still willing to pay top dollar.
Posted by jlovel7
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
21370 posts
Posted on 7/25/23 at 7:00 am to
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JP Mor­gan said the sec­ond quar­ter “could rep­re­sent the best of both worlds for au­tomak­ers, with vol­ume and pric­ing both track­ing strong.”


Stop falling for 10 year notes at 10% people!!!!
Posted by TheFlyingTiger
Member since Oct 2009
3994 posts
Posted on 7/25/23 at 7:01 am to
Until the crash hits pocketbooks directly, the debt cycle will continue
Posted by Beauregard96
Hopped up on goof balls
Member since Nov 2006
2167 posts
Posted on 7/25/23 at 7:02 am to
I get that people need cars but $52k with a 9% interest rate can't be sustainable for most households
Posted by Animal
Member since Dec 2017
4222 posts
Posted on 7/25/23 at 7:03 am to
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Car prices aren’t coming down anytime soon



Ever.
Posted by CollegeFBRules
Member since Oct 2008
24277 posts
Posted on 7/25/23 at 7:05 am to
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I get that people need cars but $52k with a 9% interest rate can't be sustainable for most households


I have no idea how the majority of households can afford this. Going to start having those 20 year boat notes on cars before long.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
99350 posts
Posted on 7/25/23 at 7:12 am to
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I get that people need cars but $52k with a 9% interest rate can't be sustainable for most households


My neighbor has not one but two brand new trucks. I have no idea how they’re affording it.
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
45281 posts
Posted on 7/25/23 at 7:16 am to
Except for Tesla who looks to be slashing prices again
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
43237 posts
Posted on 7/25/23 at 7:16 am to
Once people spend the covid money they stole the prices will start to come down
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
41240 posts
Posted on 7/25/23 at 7:19 am to
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I get that people need cars but $52k with a 9% interest rate can't be sustainable for most households


I feel like I’ve been saying the same thing for a while now. Still driving my ‘02 Dodge with 270K miles on it.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51417 posts
Posted on 7/25/23 at 7:20 am to
Just wish the used market would chill out
Posted by Horsemeat
Truckin' somewhere in the US
Member since Dec 2014
13572 posts
Posted on 7/25/23 at 7:26 am to
Tell this to the dumb pricks taking out 10 year loans for $75k pickup trucks that will eventually cost them $175k after intrest through those 10 years. People are BEGGING to go bankrupt.
Posted by WhiskeyThrottle
Weatherford Tx
Member since Nov 2017
5360 posts
Posted on 7/25/23 at 7:46 am to
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I feel like I’ve been saying the same thing for a while now. Still driving my ‘02 Dodge with 270K miles on it.



It's brutal. I refuse to get screwed on price AND interest. My tundra has 170k on it and I've been patiently waiting for prices to drop but absolutely nothing. At some point, the other shoe has to drop it would seem, but we're well past the 6 month, year and 18 month period that was predicted. I can drive the tundra awhile longer. At some point, it's going to have to be replaced. I'm just waiting for the right timing. Fortunately, I can wait longer.

In the meantime I've opened a brokerage account to start saving for a newer vehicle so I'm not getting raped on price and interest.
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
21457 posts
Posted on 7/25/23 at 7:53 am to
Brought my 2018 F150 with 101k miles on it to the dealership several weeks back for them to do a couple things, including repair or replace the steering wheel shaft that controls the windshield wipers, as they wouldn’t shut off.

Before I had received a call updating me on the status of my truck, I had already received an email and two phone calls from folks at the sales department wanting to buy my truck. Had to tell them I had no desire for a new truck note, that just want them to do the repairs so I can drive it another 100k miles.

They eventually did the maintenance and repair I requested. Since picking it up, I’ve received a text, email and a letter in the mail from that dealership still asking if they can purchase the truck at a “premium”.
Posted by Mizz-SEC
Inbred Huntin' In The SEC
Member since Jun 2013
19263 posts
Posted on 7/25/23 at 8:01 am to
Just keep up (or even overkill) all routine maintenance like oil changes and lubes and keep rolling with what you have.
Posted by Purple Spoon
Hoth
Member since Feb 2005
17955 posts
Posted on 7/25/23 at 8:11 am to
As much as I would like a new truck I just can’t do it. I drive 2 miles to work and 20 minutes to my hunting lease. I can’t pay 60k just to look at it in my driveway.

Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58295 posts
Posted on 7/25/23 at 8:13 am to
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Just wish the used market would chill out


This
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
12735 posts
Posted on 7/25/23 at 8:14 am to
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Once people spend the covid money they stole the prices will start to come down


I have money I feel like I stole. I shoved money into offshore O&G driller stock during the pandemic and that money is at a ten fold increase and going higher. Now the big funds are starting to retake positions in it.
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
65966 posts
Posted on 7/25/23 at 8:14 am to
OP:

Posted by dr
texas
Member since Mar 2022
1132 posts
Posted on 7/25/23 at 8:20 am to
Its insane the car prices. $65K (msrp) to replace my car.

it's better for me to retire early, than buy another car for the daily commuter. 75 miles /day adds up quick, plus summer trips.
Between not buying another car, and saving fuel, and tolls, weekly, It seems like the only way to survive, financially.

as was said, not gonna buy a car worth $40k for $60k, @ 10% for 10 years. More economic to retire and just stay home
(not the retirement I was hoping for, either)

this economy (and the people) is so screwed
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