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PBS Frontline just put out an episode on the Uvalde shooting (bodycams, 911 calls, etc)

Posted on 12/5/23 at 8:43 pm
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51419 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 8:43 pm
The police chief should be in prison. I believe this even more so after watching this episode.

They initially assumed the shot classrooms had no kids in them because it was quiet, no kids were screaming….they assumed it was empty, in the middle of a school day.

They didn’t even realize that the building hadn’t been cleared and that there were kids hiding in the other classrooms until about half an hour into the whole thing. What the frick.

And the bodycam showing the cop telling everybody that his wife was lying shot in one of the classrooms….

This is not an easy episode to watch.
This post was edited on 12/5/23 at 8:47 pm
Posted by Sput
Member since Mar 2020
7995 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 8:52 pm to
Back the Blue Baw
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
30337 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 8:54 pm to
That pussbag just stood there knowing his wife was in a classroom bleeding out.
Posted by BearCrocs
Member since Aug 2013
6473 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 8:54 pm to
Can this be watched online?
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51419 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 8:56 pm to
PBS website, just look up the show frontline
Posted by Geaux Piggins Geaux
Member since Aug 2015
713 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 8:56 pm to
Did any of those dirtbags in charge get canned or shamed to quitting?
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51419 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 8:58 pm to
Chief finally had the general discharge/fired for cause placed on his service record just recently, but no criminal charges
Posted by DogFacedSoldier
Dallas
Member since Oct 2023
98 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 8:59 pm to
1. Yes, he should be held accountable as he swore an oath to defend the Constitution and his community.

2. LEO is trained - now days - to go towards the driving force...whether that is screaming, shooting or visuals...if there's no driving force, you don't just go checking every classroom.

3. Comms in Uvalde was a clown show...they did not have a formal policy in place and regardless, too many diff. responding agencies showed up on scene with no previous training together re: active killer events.

4. That officer is still suffering to this day re: the lack of leadership shown by numerous individuals on that date...because of Uvalde, training is improving across the country but still is woefully inadequate.

5. Folks have no clue how bad the situation is in most communities re: future mass casualty events due to the shortage in LEOs, the dearth of qualified candidates who actually want to do the job in the light of the summer of love and burning and the budget crunches across the country where training funding is at an all time low.
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
51524 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 9:08 pm to
Decimation.

Just like the Romans did.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51419 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 9:11 pm to
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2. LEO is trained - now days - to go towards the driving force...whether that is screaming, shooting or visuals...if there's no driving force, you don't just go checking every classroom.


They went immediately right to the correct classroom, got shot at, then retreated away for over an hour.
Posted by Odysseus32
Member since Dec 2009
7358 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 9:14 pm to
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Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
51524 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 9:21 pm to
Wait a damn second. They are saying the AR15 rounds are AP????
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
One State Solution
Member since May 2012
55918 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 9:22 pm to
99% of cops are great!
Posted by Chief Hinge
There and Here
Member since Sep 2018
2932 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 9:25 pm to
Just remember that every documentary is told with the breath of one mouth.
This post was edited on 12/5/23 at 9:26 pm
Posted by WillieD
Lafayette/BR
Member since Apr 2014
2048 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 9:25 pm to
But it’s liberal PBS
Posted by Northshoretiger87
Member since Apr 2016
3785 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 9:27 pm to


All shits and giggles to these fricks.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
55036 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 9:29 pm to
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Chief finally had the general discharge/fired for cause placed on his service record just recently, but no criminal charges

Did he ever actually show up in front of the city council or whatever to answer questions? I know he was dodging them, and attending those meetings when requested was a requirement.
Posted by ugastreaker
South Ga
Member since Jun 2015
4106 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 9:37 pm to
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You want a competent police force? Start pay at $70k in rural areas with a substantial pay ladder and keep the benefits the same. You’ll see a much higher quality of candidate show up.


Pay for law officers in rural America is pretty crappy across the board. IMO states should allow unions that can come up with better pension/ retirement to offset the low pay. Fully vest in 20 and have some tax breaks. And in doing so, that should also increase health/ fitness requirements and yearly training (re)qualifications.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
40137 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 9:38 pm to
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All shits and giggles to these fricks.


It's all shits and giggles until someone giggles and shits
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51419 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 9:39 pm to
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Just remember that every documentary is told with the breath of one mouth.


It’s 95% bodycam footage and filmed law enforcement interviews that were taken during the official investigation. That’s what makes it so damning.
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