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Does Trump deserve any blame for the 2020 election outcome?

Posted on 8/9/23 at 11:36 am
Posted by PorkSammich
North FL
Member since Sep 2013
14307 posts
Posted on 8/9/23 at 11:36 am
since it was rigged - he was in office during it and was complaining about mail-in voting months before.

Did he not do enough? Or was he just out outmaneuvered by the Dems?
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
7639 posts
Posted on 8/9/23 at 11:38 am to
Dems cheated. It is 100% on them.
Posted by Joeybd
Member since Oct 2022
544 posts
Posted on 8/9/23 at 11:38 am to
DJT was complaining back in 2015 about rigged elections.

He sets you deplorables up and knocks you down for $.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
116457 posts
Posted on 8/9/23 at 11:39 am to
Directly:

he signed the CARES Act, which was almost entirely drafted by Dems.

The Cares Act had 400 million in it earmarked for the kinds of election shenanigans that lead directly to the 2020 election problems, including mass mail in ballots and ballot harvesting efforts in many states, that Democrats in turn used directly against him.
Posted by Gifman
Member since Jan 2021
9690 posts
Posted on 8/9/23 at 11:39 am to
Yes, 100%. He underestimated how much ballot harvesting would matter and didn't do the same. That alone cost him. He didn't adapt to the VERY new voting rules (as a result of the covid scam).
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
28633 posts
Posted on 8/9/23 at 11:41 am to
His error was letting administrators dictate policy instead of just relying on the administrators for the latest data and recommendations. I get in the very beginning you play it safe and are inclined to go with whatever the medical administrators recommend, but after that first 60 days it’s time to put those people back in their offices and take control of the wheel. Trump allowed CDC and Fauci to spread hysteria for months on end which states used to dictate their own draconian covid measures and change election laws.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
31363 posts
Posted on 8/9/23 at 11:41 am to
The republican leaders of Maricopa County, AZ are fighting their own candidate.

Explain that.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
105510 posts
Posted on 8/9/23 at 11:42 am to
Absolutely, I think there is always more one could have done, and opportunities for reflection where he and his campaign could have done better.
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
30564 posts
Posted on 8/9/23 at 11:42 am to
He deserves blame for forcing the uniparty to go out and up the ballots to juuuuuuust enough over 81 million.

Because even Dems know joe didn’t get that many in ALL THE RIGHT PLACES.





I am going to go vote again so I can force the dem party to find enough ballots to get whoever the damn candidate is over 110 mm votes.

They will NOT allow opposition to ever win again. Nor will it be reported fairly.
This post was edited on 8/9/23 at 11:44 am
Posted by roux
Tiger Territory
Member since Dec 2006
1597 posts
Posted on 8/9/23 at 11:43 am to
quote:

he signed the CARES Act, which was almost entirely drafted by Dems.
Yep but the election was really only stolen in 5 or 6 counties in certain swing states. In the end it's really on Democrats. FWIW All Democrats are evil.
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
9247 posts
Posted on 8/9/23 at 11:43 am to
When you look at his September 2019 EO, maybe this is what he wanted. He knows this is what would have to happen to expose the bad actors.

It looks like the Trump Tree of Exposure is about to bear some fruit!!

Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
119187 posts
Posted on 8/9/23 at 11:46 am to
Yes. Trump is responsible for providing Democratic and RINO Republican motivation to cheat.
Posted by BayouBlitz
Member since Aug 2007
15860 posts
Posted on 8/9/23 at 11:46 am to
quote:

When you look at his September 2019 EO, maybe this is what he wanted. He knows this is what would have to happen to expose the bad actors.

It looks like the Trump Tree of Exposure is about to bear some fruit!!


He wanted to lose the election to expose politicians as corrupt?

Brilliant!!
Posted by EvrybodysAllAmerican
Member since Apr 2013
11237 posts
Posted on 8/9/23 at 11:47 am to
Repubs ran everything and did nothing to clean up voter fraud in the cities, and never pushed for voter ID laws. Now its too late. The country is circling the drain.
This post was edited on 8/9/23 at 11:48 am
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
68530 posts
Posted on 8/9/23 at 11:47 am to

He should have been arresting FBI and CIA agents who were framing him.
Posted by International_Aggie
Member since Oct 2012
1096 posts
Posted on 8/9/23 at 11:49 am to
Indirectly.

Everyone knew mail in ballots were the game plan since the lockdowns started. The whole point was to cast doubt on our electoral system. It’s why the vote counts are so laughably absurd.

Trump was counting on the courts to fix it after the fact.

Edit: That said, he was fighting not only democrats but republican, too.
This post was edited on 8/9/23 at 11:52 am
Posted by captainFid
Vestavia, AL
Member since Dec 2014
4814 posts
Posted on 8/9/23 at 11:53 am to
quote:

Does Trump deserve any blame for the 2020 election outcome?


Yes. He's infected every prog I know with TDS. Good for him... He gets my vote.
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
22841 posts
Posted on 8/9/23 at 11:53 am to
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Or was he just out outmaneuvered by the Dems?


This. It was kind of lose-lose situation considering the virus being released on the world.

I mean he was called a monster fighting back anything that was proposed in the name of Covid-19.

There is no way the election shenanigans would have been capable without the virus occurring and his opponents weaponizing it.

There was nothing wrong with the thought that we may need money to help with the election process. We did not need to rapidly and haphazardly change the entire process though.
This post was edited on 8/9/23 at 11:55 am
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
116457 posts
Posted on 8/9/23 at 11:54 am to
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Yep but the election was really only stolen in 5 or 6 counties in certain swing states


And we have direct evidence that CARES Act funds were used in those swing states to fund Democrat Ballot Harvesting and Mail In Voting efforts.

He literally gave them the money to beat him
Posted by PorkSammich
North FL
Member since Sep 2013
14307 posts
Posted on 8/9/23 at 11:57 am to
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CARES Act


Yikes:

quote:

THE PRESIDENT: So, that’s fantastic. But I want to thank Republicans and Democrats for coming together, setting aside their differences, and putting America first. This legislation provides for direct payments to individuals and unprecedented support to small businesses. We’re going to keep our small businesses strong and our big businesses strong. And that’s keeping our country strong and our jobs strong.
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