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re: Herbstreit to officially apologise to LSU & BCS !!

Posted on 12/18/07 at 3:43 pm to
Posted by TigerTerrorist
Member since Nov 2006
2623 posts
Posted on 12/18/07 at 3:43 pm to
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Herbstreit to officially apologise to LSU & BCS !!
no such thing. The original poster is often subject to tourette's like rantings with no basis in fact. He is depriving a village somewhere of an idiot.

Stevo = a colostomy bag

eff off! dork you would not have the ballz to beg for one (an apology) turd with a yellow stripe!
Posted by Stevo
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2004
11414 posts
Posted on 12/18/07 at 3:59 pm to
see what I mean.
Posted by TigerTerrorist
Member since Nov 2006
2623 posts
Posted on 12/18/07 at 4:16 pm to
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see what I mean.

pATHETIC
Posted by lukestar
Parts unknown
Member since Dec 2004
3466 posts
Posted on 12/18/07 at 8:13 pm to
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dukke i've got to agree 100% with you on this. so many of us hate danielson because his job is to help call a football game, not kiss lsu arse

You have obviously never listened to Danielson call a game...It has nothing to do with him kissing LSU arse...It has everything to do with him not doing his homework and not either being able to pronounce names or butchering them all together...such as Bo Rien as the LSU DC not Bo Pelini...
This post was edited on 12/18/07 at 8:17 pm
Posted by KCinDC
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2007
1520 posts
Posted on 12/18/07 at 9:55 pm to
ESPN's Ombudsman weighed in on this one.

I know, I know, it's the first time I've ever read an ombudsman column too. Not the same as on the air, but it's something.

quote:

Les Miles: Reporting the future

On the morning of Saturday, Dec. 1, Louisiana State University's football team was readying itself for the Southeastern Conference title game against Tennessee, a game that would determine whether LSU went on to play for the BCS national championship. Rumors that LSU coach Les Miles might leave to take the coaching job at his alma mater, the University of Michigan, had been widely circulating since the day, two weeks earlier, when Michigan coach Lloyd Carr had announced his retirement. To avoid distraction before the title game, all directly concerned parties at LSU and Michigan had reportedly agreed to avoid any job-change maneuvering until the week after the game.

But early that Saturday, on ESPN and ESPNEWS and later ESPN.com, the word was out: "Sources have told ESPN's Kirk Herbstreit that, barring any unforeseen circumstances, Michigan will announce early next week it has reached an agreement with LSU coach Les Miles to be its next head football coach." As Herbstreit's later remarks would make clear, that information came not from "sources," but from a single, anonymous, uncorroborated source. Miles called a short news conference two hours before the game to angrily label the report "misinformation."

Herbstreit stood by his source, despite Miles' continued emphatic assertion that he was staying at LSU, until the ESPN college football analyst finally was forced by circumstances to concede his error the next day. By the end of the week, LSU, the SEC champion, announced that Miles had signed an amended contract that extends his stay at LSU through 2012.

Given an anonymous source, who to judge by repeated on-the-record denials was not Miles, his agent or Michigan athletic director Bill Martin, and given the degree of at least slight doubt implied by "barring any unforeseen circumstances," why did ESPN go with a story that risked affecting outcomes -- the championship game and the job negotiations -- by itself becoming an unforeseen circumstance?

"As to how breaking a story might impact events," Doria said, "unless those events are life-threatening or equally monumental -- we don't consider coaching job negotiations or preparation for a football game in either category -- we wouldn't withhold information."

That is fine, but only if ESPN consistently holds its sports journalism to the same standards applied in good non-sports journalism when using anonymous sources. To my mind, Herbstreit, a former Ohio State quarterback and not an experienced reporter, was less to blame for this ill-founded scoop than the senior College GameDay producers who should have advised him against going on air with such shaky information instead of convincing him it was his journalistic obligation to share with viewers what "a source" had told him.

"Given that no deal is done until an agreement is signed, we could have tempered this one more than it was," Doria said. "In hindsight, we should have said something like, 'A source has told ESPN that Miles and Michigan have agreed on money and length of term, but no contract is signed, and Miles has to go to Michigan for a face-to-face interview with AD Bill Martin.' "

That would have been better, but we have been given no reason to believe it would have been any more true. All we know for sure is that ESPN's reputation as a reliable source of "scoops" has taken another blow. When viewers respond to the phrase "a source has told ESPN" with a "we'll see" attitude, as many who write me say they now do, it undermines the efforts of ESPN's entire staff of producers, editors and reporters.


Posted by Xenophon
Aspen
Member since Feb 2006
40965 posts
Posted on 12/18/07 at 10:06 pm to
Mike Greenberg is the one that should be apologizing..
Posted by JVTiger
Member since Nov 2004
2489 posts
Posted on 12/18/07 at 11:10 pm to
Danielson said for 3 straight weeks that RP was a transfer from Texas. And you think he's good?

Frankly I think he sides with LSU most of the time. Me not liking him has nothing to do with him kissing anyone's arse.

Dukke is about the most negative, uninformed poster on this board and that speaks volumes.
Posted by JVTiger
Member since Nov 2004
2489 posts
Posted on 12/18/07 at 11:12 pm to
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Herbie wanted a scoop, just like CBS and Dan Rather wanted to scoop the Bush National Guard story. Both used sh*tty sources that got by their producers.


Difference is, CBS's story was correct but their sources were wrong. No one ever collected the $10k reward to prove Bush served at Bama. Nada.

With Herb OTOH, Miles is still here.
Posted by GarmischTiger
Humboldt County
Member since Mar 2007
6611 posts
Posted on 12/19/07 at 12:27 am to
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Difference is, CBS's story was correct but their sources were wrong. No one ever collected the $10k reward to prove Bush served at Bama. Nada.

With Herb OTOH, Miles is still here.


True...there's a real possibility both stories were right...Herbie could have been right, at the time. Hell, he might have outed Miles, either on his own or as someone's pawn.
Posted by TigerTerrorist
Member since Nov 2006
2623 posts
Posted on 12/19/07 at 7:35 am to
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Herbie could have been right, at the time.

Herbie was sure "right" about tOSU's superior team too Florida!
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