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Posted on 12/3/22 at 12:59 pm to bad93ex
If you are playing mens soccer in college, you should have no shot at making the national team. Kids need to move to Europe at 12 y/o or earlier if they show promise.
The problem with the US system is kids play so they can go to college. That's the goal. Set by their parents. Everywhere else they play so they can make a professional team and their national teams.
Also the USA kids come from money. They play travel ball. Little Johnny is playing travel soccer so all the moms in the neighborhood has to get their kids on travel teams as well
It's a status symbol in most neighborhoods. Just like travel baseball.
Then they want their kids to get a scholarship and play in college. This is holding kids back.
These others players that you see have been in club academies since they were in grade school. They don't come from money and push themselves to get out of their predicament. It's kind of like football here in that regards. Kids want to get out of a bad situation and sports is their only way out.
Soccer kids here come from good situations.
We don't get the best players, we get the ones that can afford to play.
Thats why football is successful here. It's not a class tier like American soccer. Anyone can play and it's not expensive.
Until they change soccer at the youth level, the USA will never get far in the World Cup.
The problem with the US system is kids play so they can go to college. That's the goal. Set by their parents. Everywhere else they play so they can make a professional team and their national teams.
Also the USA kids come from money. They play travel ball. Little Johnny is playing travel soccer so all the moms in the neighborhood has to get their kids on travel teams as well
It's a status symbol in most neighborhoods. Just like travel baseball.
Then they want their kids to get a scholarship and play in college. This is holding kids back.
These others players that you see have been in club academies since they were in grade school. They don't come from money and push themselves to get out of their predicament. It's kind of like football here in that regards. Kids want to get out of a bad situation and sports is their only way out.
Soccer kids here come from good situations.
We don't get the best players, we get the ones that can afford to play.
Thats why football is successful here. It's not a class tier like American soccer. Anyone can play and it's not expensive.
Until they change soccer at the youth level, the USA will never get far in the World Cup.
Posted on 12/3/22 at 2:06 pm to WaWaWeeWa
They grow up playing in hyper competitive youth programs financed by professional soccer teams. While it’s a romantic idea, players don’t just play in the street until 18 then get on a plane to Europe
Posted on 12/3/22 at 2:13 pm to bad93ex
No.
To be Division I you have to have 6 men's and 8 women's sports.
Men's soccer just isn't a priority, or it would be one of the six.
To be Division I you have to have 6 men's and 8 women's sports.
Men's soccer just isn't a priority, or it would be one of the six.
Posted on 12/3/22 at 7:27 pm to bad93ex
Yes.
Posted on 12/3/22 at 11:10 pm to RollTide4Ever
WTH are you thinking ? 14-18 is HIGH SCHOOL not college !!
Posted on 12/4/22 at 6:22 am to tickfawtiger
By 14-16 if they are not a full time pro they are way behind the power curve
Posted on 12/4/22 at 8:36 am to bad93ex
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Message Would repealing Title IX help soccer in the USA?
Repealing Title IX doesn’t guarantee colleges would add men’s soccer teams. It wouldn’t surprise me if all scholarship sports except football and basketball go the club route over the next 20 years.
But colleges getting into soccer would help our national team in the long run.
Not by putting players on the national team, but by giving a lot more communities access to a sort of semi-pro team. It also improves outcomes for good, but not professional level players which will cause more kids to have an incentive to play.
It’s impossible to recreate the professional pyramids other countries built over 100 years.
Posted on 12/4/22 at 9:25 am to StraightCashHomey21
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No college soccer isn’t even the same sport
College athletes have more restrictions than full time pros the same ag
yeah. the entire premise of this thread makes no sense. Anyone that plays college soccer is not on the level of players we need to make deeper runs in the world cup.
Posted on 12/4/22 at 9:31 am to SabiDojo
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18 year old kid who is a good player. No 4 year university has a program close by. So he either goes to Hinds County Community College to play ball or gives up soccer and focuses on a college degree at a good state school. It’s a no-brainer. Title IX has absolutely hurt men’s soccer
if he's 18 years old and isn't already picked up by an academy then he has no business on the us mens national team.
maybe MLS would get a few more players but as far as world cup goes anyone playing college soccer in america is already on too low of a level to start for the USMNT
Posted on 12/4/22 at 9:35 am to Corinthians420
When a 10 year old multi sport athlete's parent has to make a make a decision which sport to focus on, it probably is a factor.
Posted on 12/4/22 at 9:41 am to Corinthians420
quote:The national team isn’t mentioned anywhere in the original post.
yeah. the entire premise of this thread makes no sense. Anyone that plays college soccer is not on the level of players we need to make deeper runs in the world cup.
If more kids were interested in the sport until later ages everyone would benefit, even if the elite still have to take a different development path.
This post was edited on 12/4/22 at 9:43 am
Posted on 12/4/22 at 9:44 am to Earnest_P
I would focus on areas with highest immigration as well as pop. Density first.
Posted on 12/4/22 at 9:48 am to MOT
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If more kids were interested in the sport until later ages everyone would benefit, even if the elite still have to take a different development path.
I mean it would probably result in a few more athletic players with zero touch having a shot at finding an mls roster. Ill give you that
Posted on 12/4/22 at 10:12 am to Corinthians420
What gets overlooked is the mental part of the game. Players who start at a very young age have a huge advantage over those that start later in life. You can always get physically better at any age, but there is a certain component to the game that only comes from learning as a child. Intuition is probably the best description.
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